Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Pushing a lifeless body yes, but it's still Exitar body and it's weight still stands. Regardless of whether he "died" or not. And I doubt Thor or Hyperion could do it. Wasn't it originally the idea that they needed the power of every hero on Earth to lift Exitar? If Thor or Hyperion could do that why not send them? I don't see any difference in how his body suddenly loses weight because he is dead. The feat still stands in my opinion and is an amazing one at that.
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No one is saying that Exitar no longer weights a lot, I'm sure he does, his body is the size of a planet but there's no need to be dumb.
They didn't need the power of every hero on Earth and then some to stop Exitar because he's very big and thus very heavy. They needed it because he's a f*cking Celestial. Any of the more stronger characters should be more capable of Sentry's feat such Thor/Hulk/Hyperion. Maybe not so effortlessly and at such speeds but whatever.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😬No one is saying that Exitar no longer weights a lot, I'm sure he does, his body is the size of a planet but there's no need to be dumb.
They didn't need the power of every hero on Earth and then some to stop Exitar because he's very big and thus very heavy. They needed it because he's a f*cking Celestial. Any of the more stronger characters should be more capable of Sentry's feat such Thor/Hulk/Hyperion. Maybe not so effortlessly and at such speeds but whatever.
True, perhaps I was a bit forthright with what I said to be honest. It was more because the way he wrote his message seemed to belittle the feat. When Sentry has been in UA #22 described as the one along with Rogue temporarily to stop Exitar. Also in that scan Sentry was glowing so perhaps he absorbed a tiny bit of power? Who knows.
It can be assumed Exitar is a planetary mass dead. However Sentry doing that to his dead body has no bearing on when Exitar was alive descending. Sentry didn't suddenly get over twice as strong.
Not that they overpowered Exitar or anything but at least then he was actively descending while levitating. Also what Rage said.
And holy shit is Remender's Avengers books retarded. He's pretty much Bendising over everything
Re: Re: Dsentry/Voidtry Vs. Odin
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Don't really know if this is relevant to thread as such but Sentry has gained a new feat in UA #22 (showing he can lift Exitar himself without aid) and manage to fly pretty fast while doing so.
I think that's a pretty beastly feat. Its true Exitar is just dead weight now, but he's still as big as the planet. Sentry just flew him away at speed with barely to no effort at all. Not a beat all feat, but still pretty cool.
Odin wins by the way.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It can be assumed Exitar is a planetary mass dead. However Sentry doing that to his dead body has no bearing on when Exitar was alive descending. Sentry didn't suddenly get over twice as strong.Not that they overpowered Exitar or anything but at least then he was actively descending while levitating. Also what Rage said.
And holy shit is Remender's Avengers books retarded. He's pretty much Bendising over everything
Like I said to Rage I did go a bit overboard. But anyway I never mentioned it making him twice as stronger. It was already stated on panel that Sentry either equalled or exceeded the strength of every hero on Earth by stopping Exitar when he was descending.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Like I said to Rage I did go a bit overboard. But anyway I never mentioned it making him twice as stronger. It was already stated on panel that Sentry either equalled or exceeded the strength of every hero on Earth by stopping Exitar when he was descending.
If you assume it was the same type of "weight" then Sentry would have needed to be like twice as strong at least to pull that off. He can't just go from barely halting Exitar with someone his equal or greater to just flying him at extreme speeds without a care in the world if we assume equal "mass", unless you're saying he got an extreme bump in strength.
Is what I meant by saying he didn't get twice as strong.
Though it'd be a neat game to play to figure out his weight in that arc considering his size and him being far denser than anything in the solar system.
And on another note oddly enough Sentry is somehow the most interesting thing in Uncanny Avengers.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
If you assume it was the same type of "weight" then Sentry would have needed to be like twice as strong at least to pull that off. He can't just go from barely halting Exitar with someone his equal or greater to just flying him at extreme speeds without a care in the world if we assume equal "mass", unless you're saying he got an extreme bump in strength.
Is what I meant by saying he didn't get twice as strong.And on another note oddly enough Sentry is somehow the most interesting thing in Uncanny Avengers.
This was how I was figuring it, when Rogue found out she was absorbing everyone's powers and she went up there to "stop" Exitar she was under the impression that she was the sole person who was going to be there to do that. So when she tries in vain and she shouts "It's not enough Steve" that kind of gives the impression that she had no idea.
You then get Stark saying how the plan has failed and that Exitar is still sinking (which again shows that Cap didn't tell everyone except form Thor and Wasp, who when they went back in time would be in the Akkaba nebula like in UA #15). So when Cap says he knew that's obviously implying he knew Rogue wasn't there to stop Exitar in anyway she was a placeholder until someone who could stop Exitar i.e Sentry arrived.
So when he came along and he stopped Exitar Stark says "whoever Wasp has holding that other foot "They've stopped the celestial's descent" so he isn't referring to Rogue obviously the person who arrived was capable as Stark just stated it.
If it was Rogue+Sentry propping up Exitar he would've said "Whoever Wasp has holding that other foot that person and Rogue have stopped the Celestial" which he obviously didn't say, which gives more credence to the fact that the Sentry was the one to stop him.
So I don't think he received a jump in power at all. Combined with the fact when at the time Exitar was descending and if you remember last time that happened not even Hulk could hold him back. So if anything Sentry holding Exitar when he descended again proves his strength.
Or alternatively when he was glowing orange he may have absorbed some power from Exitar but that's just a theory to chuck around.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
This was how I was figuring it, when Rogue found out she was absorbing everyone's powers and she went up there to "stop" Exitar she was under the impression that she was the sole person who was going to be there to do that. So when she tries in vain and she shouts "It's not enough Steve" that kind of gives the impression that she had no idea.You then get Stark saying how the plan has failed and that Exitar is still sinking (which again shows that Cap didn't tell everyone except form Thor and Wasp, who when they went back in time would be in the Akkaba nebula like in UA #15). So when Cap says he knew that's obviously implying he knew Rogue wasn't there to stop Exitar in anyway she was a placeholder until someone who could stop Exitar i.e Sentry arrived.
So when he came along and he stopped Exitar Stark says "whoever Wasp has holding that other foot "They've stopped the celestial's descent" so he isn't referring to Rogue obviously the person who arrived was capable as Stark just stated it.
If it was Rogue+Sentry propping up Exitar he would've said "Whoever Wasp has holding that other foot that person and Rogue have stopped the Celestial" which he obviously didn't say, which gives more credence to the fact that the Sentry was the one to stop him.
So I don't think he received a jump in power at all. Combined with the fact when at the time Exitar was descending and if you remember last time that happened not even Hulk could hold him back. So if anything Sentry holding Exitar when he descended again proves his strength.
Or alternatively when he was glowing orange he may have absorbed some power from Exitar but that's just a theory to chuck around.
The machine went out before Hulk did. Exitar was temporarily stopped. Doesn't matter though since neither Hulk or Sentry could fully stop Exitar on their own.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hulk wasn't even the power source of the machine anyway. All he did was hold a sparking plug in into a socket. Literally nothing Hulk did supplied power in anyway to halt Exitar. He just kept it "on"And then he died by Exitar indirectly killing him. So... yeah use that timeline of events.
The second feat is not I have to say as good. I mean it was empty and no force was being put down onto Sentry so perhaps it was easier for him to do lift Exitar the 2nd time although you have to admit it was still a decent showing how he can fly around carrying him like that.
I have to say after the point you made about the 1st feat I am kind of conflicted, I'll explain why. I fully accept that Rogue took a part in stopping him in some shape or form temporarily. But my problem is whether Rogue was just a placeholder or did she assist and how much so, the only reason I am in 2 minds is because in UA 22 Rogue crashes to the ground while the Sentry was holding the celestial still. But I do agree with the premise of what you said.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
A lot of people understood it while you admittedly don't have the slightest clue about it.So keep bringing it up and discussing it at every chance.
Reread the thread and see who brought it up. Like I've stated, people have different interpretation of the showing...Bran, you broadcasted yours. You can have the last word buddy. I'm done with this topic.
As for the thread. Odin stomps.