Originally posted by Branlor Swift
On average Wolverine...On average Wolverine is a big dumb brick that just swiper no swipings at his opponents. If you want to get properly into Wolverine's speed you're going to have to get into the nitty gritty, which is exactly where you don't want to go if you're opposing Batman's showings.
A human being cannot dodge bullet fire or lasers. That's just D.C. making fools of you. But go ahead and list those bullshit feats.
Originally posted by Stoiclol I didn't claim batman is faster (although they are pretty close). Leo was saying Logan was faster based off the exact stuff batman has done (but more frequently). Batman just does it more (doesn't mean he is faster though). Logan blocked cyclops blast, batman block lasers with a mirror, etc. Both have similar speed feats.
The problem here is that when Logan has his HF, he doesn't have to dodge bullets because he can take the hits. Saying that Batman is faster than Wolverine because he dodges bullets is like saying that he's faster than Superman because Superman doesn't have to, even though he can as well, albeit to a far greater extent than Wolverine. Just an example, don't chase the rabbit on this one, just an example to say that this doesn't really prove anything.
Originally posted by Blue Area VetA human also can't have a gene in them that allows them to shoot 3 foot claws out of their forearms either.
A human being cannot dodge bullet fire or lasers. That's just D.C. making fools of you. But go ahead and list those bullshit feats.
Nothing Wolverine has ever did counts?
Or you know comics. Because almost nothing Batman has ever did is applicable in our real world view of how humans work. But go on and tell me how one of his most famous feats (kicking a tree in half) is DC tricking you because you can't do it, and therefore it doesn't count.
Or how a guy with a prior broken back has no chronic back pain and therefore everything done afterwards was a mere dream.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
A human also can't have a gene in them that allows them to shoot 3 foot claws out of their forearms either.Nothing Wolverine has ever did counts?
Or you know comics. Because almost nothing Batman has ever did is applicable in our real world view of how humans work. But go on and tell me how one of his most famous feats (kicking a tree in half) is DC tricking you because you can't do it, and therefore it doesn't count.
Or how a guy with a prior broken back has no chronic back pain and therefore everything done afterwards was a mere dream.
Sure they can in comics when they have a mutant X gene. You can accept the explanation or not, but an explanation exists. That's the difference. Sorta beats the explanation "He's the damn Batman."
Originally posted by Blue Area Vetthe explanation for batman is chi power (which is real). Which is only known in one place on d.c. Earth. Batman went there for his training.
Sure they can in comics when they have a mutant X gene. You can accept the explanation or not, but an explanation exists. That's the difference.
chi power, if mastered in the real world, may or may not make a human do what batman has done (but they can do super human feats). But since we don't fully know, then the suspension of disbelief still holds.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Sure they can in comics when they have a mutant X gene. You can accept the explanation or not, but an explanation exists. That's the difference. Sorta beats the explanation "He's the damn Batman."
Lol. So you're gonna ignore every Bat feat because .....it doesn't fit with real worlds physics/ biology?
GTFO lol. You don't belong in a comic book versus forum.
Originally posted by Blue Area VetAn explanation exists that Batman can do it because it's a comic and it has no real life guidelines.
Sure they can in comics when they have a mutant X gene. You can accept the explanation or not, but an explanation exists. That's the difference. Sorta beats the explanation "He's the damn Batman."
A mutant X gene makes no sense in our world for 90 percent of the powers. But go ahead and tell me how you're defending a character with a genetic defect that allows him to heal from no material and extend 3 foot claws out of his forearms but most of Batman's feats are pis because he's classed as a human. There's no bias displayed there.
Then afterwards we might as well just debate solely on handbook descriptions of powers.
Batman doing what he does makes more sense than someone cloaking themselves in metal somehow. Because that's what you're after no, sense?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Sure they can in comics when they have a mutant X gene. You can accept the explanation or not, but an explanation exists. That's the difference. Sorta beats the explanation "He's the damn Batman."
Originally posted by golem370
Don't list feats without context Dark that you post on another thread.
How was I doing it without context, when you listed Thanos (no harm done) and Gladiator (trying to talk Wolverine down)???
He outraced the Omega Sanction. Darkseid specifically asked him if he was able to, and Batman did.