Originally posted by leonidasThen just ignore someone quit posting an agenda or taunting those you supposedly have on ignore.
^😂 pointless. there is still, after all this time, a blatant anti-dc movement at the good ole kmc. it's almost refreshing to know somethings will never change. 👆 ignore is your best friend. 🙂
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Complete garbage because you say so? Sorry dude, but I don't need your approval to sustain a hobby/interest I have had for the last 37 years or so. Have you even been alive that long? I really don't care if you see my opinion as weak, I see your willingness to accept the unacceptable as weak, but I won't insult you for it. Finally, enough with the "ignoring history." The shit isn't real, none of it every happened. The Holocaust is history, the Big Bang is history, dinosaurs ruling the earth is history. A snickering, manipulative fanboy artist? Not so much.Oh, and by the way, a character going thousands of times light speed? Don't like it, but as long as an explanation was offered, I can accept it. Look, I did have to repeat myself.
If you've been reading comics for 37 years, then you'd figure you'd understand to bring some suspension of disbelief. Or when you were a kid did you throw down an issue of Silver Surfer because none of it made sense?
But this shit is real in the history of comic books. What is the past of Batman if it isn't Batman's history?
Yes, I'm a fanboy because I don't (and many others) agree that you can simply ignore hundreds of feats purely because of a lack of explanation. Because that isn't hater logic 101.
No explanation has ever truly been offered to a character surpassing lightspeed. Never happened?
But yes, apparently you're only looking for a very weak explanation to explain Batman's feats. That makes sense
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yes, complete garbage. You're writing a character off purely because someone along the lines didn't say "He did this because he gained superpowers from eating a plant, or injecting steroids into himself."
Btw, you never answered how Cap is only a peak human, and therefore should only be capable of what a human (albeit very fit) can accomplish. Should we rule out his entire history too?If you've been reading comics for 37 years, then you'd figure you'd understand to bring some suspension of disbelief. Or when you were a kid did you throw down an issue of Silver Surfer because none of it made sense?
But this shit is real in the history of comic books. What is the past of Batman if it isn't Batman's history?
Yes, I'm a fanboy because I don't (and many others) agree that you can simply ignore hundreds of feats purely because of a lack of explanation. Because that isn't hater logic 101.
No explanation has ever truly been offered to a character surpassing lightspeed. Never happened?
But yes, apparently you're only looking for a very weak explanation to explain Batman's feats. That makes sense
Once again, I could care less who agrees with me because I am an adult who can make up his own mind. If you haven't developed beyond the perspective you had as a child reading comics, then I pity you. Bringing suspense and disbelief can be overdone to the point it's a running joke, and that is the case with Batman. There is no mystery, only a contradictions on top of contradictions.
If you enjoy being lied to, that's your perrogative. It's not mine and that doesn't make me a hater. And as far as Cap, nice try, but he clearly is not peak human and this is not a like comparision. At best the scale is off, but he DOES have a Super soldier serum and that's the explanation. Note the word "super" in the description. There is no bullshit contrived mystery surrounding Cap, he is a super powered being. Try one of the examples I gave you in Kingpin and Crossbones if you want to continue this.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
LO, Wolverine was described as super fast even by Spiderman and on more than one occasion.
Yet he gets hit by street level chars and they dodge him.
I don't say he isn't fast but people like Batman hone their reflexes/bodymemory in order to survive, Logan can tank most attacks with his face, but when you have to dodge an angry Superman, you need better reflexes.
So I see Batman having the better reflexes because of training and experience.
Originally posted by Blue Area VetAnd yet you're in a forum arguing about it where the forum rules no way indicate that you can simply ignore everything just because it doesn't make sense to you. You can make up your mind sure, but if you can't understand that comics don't refer to your view of reality then why should you try and force your opinion on anyone else?
Once again, I could care less who agrees with me because I am an adult who can make up his own mind. If you haven't developed beyond the perspective you had as a child reading comics, then I pity you. Bringing suspense and disbelief can be overdone to the point it's a running joke, and that is the case with Batman. There is no mystery, only a contradictions on top of contradictions.If you enjoy being lied to, that's your perrogative. It's not mine and that doesn't make me a hater. And as far as Cap, nice try, but he clearly is not peak human and this is not a like comparision. At best the scale is off, but he DOES have a Super soldier serum and that's the explanation. Note the word "super" in the description. There is no bullshit contrived mystery surrounding Cap, he is a super powered being. Try one of the examples I gave you in Kingpin and Crossbones if you want to continue this.
lol at lied to. I'm being lied to because I accept a strong majority of Batman's career?
And yet Cap is only peak human. "Super" is irrelevant. It made a super soldier. Not a super human. Post scans saying otherwise.
Captain America is by nature a peak human. Only feats would make him superhuman... but that is not your argument.
I have no issue with Crossbones or Kingpin though. They are unnaturally strong, but that is their entire history. Basically ignoring a character existing just because of a lack of explanation is completely senseless.
You implying you'd rather ignore everything they have ever done just because they have eaten a plant or did steroids isn't worth an actual response. You're basically arguing they don't exist.
But let's see what a mod thinks about your argument though since this is going nowhere. 🙂
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And yet you're in a forum arguing about it where the forum rules no way indicate that you can simply ignore everything just because it doesn't make sense to you. You can make up your mind sure, but if you can't understand that comics don't refer to your view of reality then why should you try and force your opinion on anyone else?
And if he continually defies belief then it's part of his character. It stops being a contradiction. It starts being within his power.lol at lied to. I'm being lied to because I accept a strong majority of Batman's career?
And yet Cap is only peak human. "Super" is irrelevant. It made a super soldier. Not a super human. Post scans saying otherwise.
Captain America is by nature a peak human. Only feats would make him superhuman... but that is not your argument.I have no issue with Crossbones or Kingpin though. They are unnaturally strong, but that is their entire history. Basically ignoring a character existing just because of a lack of explanation is completely senseless.
You implying you'd rather ignore everything they have ever done just because they have eaten a plant or did steroids isn't worth an actual response. You're basically arguing they don't exist.But let's see what a mod thinks about your argument though since this is going nowhere. 🙂
By nature?? Do you know how patently stupid that characterization is in regard to a human who became augmented by a super serum? You usual make sounds points, but Batmania has you off your game a bit. What you are attempting to do is transparent, stubborn, and quite frankly laughable. Again, you are arguing about the LEVEL of augmentation, not the level of augmentation. Have fun with that in your spare time because my point has nothing to due with your detour.
I don't think you can laud a point around when the destination of said point is a complete dismissal of almost every single Batman feat. Detour is a good word though considering you're trying to sidestep actually factoring in any Batman feats by saying none of them count, and therefore he's not as fast.
Batmania as well considering the complete nonsensical nature of your point.
"Batman is slower because I choose to accept none of his feats here."
I don't think you should be the one trying to deflect bias. I could be the biggest Batman fan in the world and none of that is in any way relevant to anything I have said here. I'm merely saying that the vast accumulation of feats that Batman has accomplished should you know... be factored in any way at all.
And Captain America was like 14 year old girl strength before he got the serum. He was upgraded to peak human. It's as simple as that. You think an explanation helps even though all it did was push him to maximum human capacity. Which is not in any way superhuman. Captain America's explanation wasn't to be super human, it was to be the best soldier ever.
Your basic logic is such that with any sort of tinkering of reason, you should therefore be capable of applying it to any situation.
None of Superman's flight feats for example should count because it doesn't make logical sense.
Superman's hv doesn't make a lick of sense because he is not a nuclear furnace.
Etc
It basically devolves into severe nitpicking that is only to meet the conclusion that you can therefore ignore said wealth of feats. Though I'm sure you'd like that with Superman.
All it is is self serving logic that allows you to be stubborn. It's not a real point. I shouldn't even be addressing it. The fact that you think it stands is disappointing to say the least. There should be absolutely no logic available that can take out a large portion of a characters history outside an amp for that portion. And your logic doesn't even begin to be able to degrade Batman's history.
"An explanation"
Yeah that's logical and the only way it should count. And certainly all you need... 🙄
Blue Area Vet, you're bashing, trolling and ignoring feats of a character is all against forum rules. I don't care what you "believe", or what you think has been adequately explained. What matters on KMC is what has been shown on panel. Your opinion and debate based upon your opinion amount to nothing more than trolling. Batman has feats, deal with it.
Batman punched out a horse. ZOMG...PIS!!!!11 That doesn't count!!!!!11oneone
Originally posted by Badabing
From Batman #16.
Batman beats Bane. Oh noez!!!!!!111 Bane is the super human on the Venom!!!!!!1111
Originally posted by Badabing
Forever Evil Aftermath. Batman vs Bane one shot.[b]Because he's BATMAN!!!!
Originally posted by Badabing
Blue Area Vet, you're bashing, trolling and ignoring feats of a character is all against forum rules. I don't care what you "believe", or what you think has been adequately explained. What matters on KMC is what has been shown on panel. Your opinion and debate based upon your opinion amount to nothing more than trolling. Batman has feats, deal with it.Batman punched out a horse. ZOMG...PIS!!!!11 That doesn't count!!!!!11oneone
Batman beats Bane. Oh noez!!!!!!111 Bane is the super human on the Venom!!!!!!1111
Lol. My point was established long ago and I was mostly repeating myself for his benefit. Just know that while you trump me in site privileges, I can't be dictated out of my opinion. Soooooo....does that mean Swift can stop talking about it? He said he doesn't know why he's talking. Oh, and I didn't bash the man.
