Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yeah it was a stalemate, and Iron Man was definitely holding back as well.But that one moment we see Thor crushing Tony's armor is indicative of what would have happened to him if Thor was going for the kill. Tony was lucky Cap took the brunt of Thor's rage. That was really dickish of Thor too. He didn't know if Cap could take it and yet he went at him like that. Only way to excuse him would be to say he thought Cap was as tough as Tony.
Agree to disagree. I'm done. Don't want to derail the thread.
Originally posted by carver9
What makes it more powerful than the one he used on Ironman? How about this, Ironman didn't use his most powerful blast on Thor (as shown here http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A52Y4IorgDU ) either i guess. So with that said, that makes Ironman look even better. Then we can use the blast he used on the worm that blew it up from the inside out. None of the blasts he used against Thor was as destructive. Don't you agree?Why would Ironman was to kill Thor? With that said, a holding back Ironman stalemated a holding back Thor which against makes Ironman look like a peer...don't you agree? Ironman knew Thor wasn't a villain, so why go all out? I saw the fight as Ironman wanting to put Thor in his place as well and wasn't going for the kill, which eventually led to the both of the holding back opponents stalemating. To bad Thor was more furious than Ironman though which makes Ironman look even better.
So your telling me Ironman would survive Thor most powerful attack seen on film so far?
And Thor would not survive Ironmans most powerful attacks seen on film so far?
Even though Thor has faced more powerful foes than Ironman sof ar in the MCU.
Ironman was even more powerful than usual in the forest fight. Remember Thor powered him up 400%??! lol and (a holding back)Thor was still winning in the end vs a 4X more powerful ironman.
When tony saw he was powered 400% , he was surprised and said "how about that" then he decided to test his new powerup on Thor. didnt work.
Cheap shots (lol)? Is that what you call it?
So Hulk punching Thor while they are catching their breath non looking at each other or in any conflict with each other is not a cheap shot?
Originally posted by Inhuman
So your telling me Ironman would survive Thor most powerful attack seen on film so far?
And Thor would not survive Ironmans most powerful attacks seen on film so far?
Even though Thor has faced more powerful foes than Ironman sof ar in the MCU.Ironman was even more powerful than usual in the forest fight. Remember Thor powered him up 400%??! lol and (a holding back)Thor was still winning in the end vs a 4X or 400X more powerful ironman.
When tony saw he was powered 400% , he was surprised and said "how about that" then he decided to test his new powerup on Thor. didnt work.So Hulk punching Thor while they are catching their breath non looking at each other or in any conflict with each other is not a cheap shot?
We're done.
....anyways..contrary to popular belief.. thor has been shown to be quite powerful. summoning tornadoes that can lift cars, the jouten buster, casually sending frost giants flying, surviving that kurse beating with only scratches to show for it. the lighting attack that killed those leviathans. I think ppl just want man of steel type fights with him which he is capable of, but its just not marvels style. regardless of who ppl say were holding back in the ironman fight, the one part that summed up the whole thing was when thor back handed ironman with mjolnir and sent him flying while he was talking. even after their back and forth fight he didn't take him seriously. the fact that the only ppl that literally showed to be overpowering him were kurse and hulk is not an insult. that's how it often is in the comics as well. but those two being stronger than him. yes those fights could have been drastically different if thor fought smarter, but he just doesn't. he fights how he fights at the end of the day. I don't think thor has been nerfed at all.
so in terms of this battle with juggs, I think thor is the better fighter. he will have a problem at the start of the battle when juggernaut initially charges him. however after they plant their feet and start slugging, thor's skill should show through. they may end up stalemating with thor landing more blows but neither doing any real lasting damage. point wise id give it to thor. but no real winner.
Originally posted by Inhuman
So your telling me Ironman would survive Thor most powerful attack seen on film so far?
And Thor would not survive Ironmans most powerful attacks seen on film so far?
Even though Thor has faced more powerful foes than Ironman sof ar in the MCU.Ironman was even more powerful than usual in the forest fight. Remember Thor powered him up 400%??! lol and (a holding back)Thor was still winning in the end vs a 4X more powerful ironman.
When tony saw he was powered 400% , he was surprised and said "how about that" then he decided to test his new powerup on Thor. didnt work.So Hulk punching Thor while they are catching their breath non looking at each other or in any conflict with each other is not a cheap shot?
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Originally posted by wallman77
....anyways..contrary to popular belief.. thor has been shown to be quite powerful. summoning tornadoes that can lift cars, the jouten buster, casually sending frost giants flying, surviving that kurse beating with only scratches to show for it. the lighting attack that killed those leviathans. I think ppl just want man of steel type fights with him which he is capable of, but its just not marvels style. regardless of who ppl say were holding back in the ironman fight, the one part that summed up the whole thing was when thor back handed ironman with mjolnir and sent him flying while he was talking. even after their back and forth fight he didn't take him seriously. the fact that the only ppl that literally showed to be overpowering him were kurse and hulk is not an insult. that's how it often is in the comics as well. but those two being stronger than him. yes those fights could have been drastically different if thor fought smarter, but he just doesn't. he fights how he fights at the end of the day. I don't think thor has been nerfed at all.so in terms of this battle with juggs, I think thor is the better fighter. he will have a problem at the start of the battle when juggernaut initially charges him. however after they plant their feet and start slugging, thor's skill should show through. they may end up stalemating with thor landing more blows but neither doing any real lasting damage. point wise id give it to thor. but no real winner.
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Originally posted by Inhuman
So a super hero can only be impressive if he is doing push ups with sky scrapers or punching continents in half?
Doing shit like that actually makes the movie cartoonish and even more childish than adding humor and jokes to it. Doesnt matter how these Heroes are in the comics. Certain things dont translate too well into making a good movie.
You might have loved the dragonball Z type fight in MOS but that is one of the reasons alot of people thought it was kind of ridiculous looking when the first part of the movie was trying to set a different kind of tone. It was telling you to not be superman and to hide your powers then BAM full on cartoonish fight.
There is a reason some toning down to a heroes powers translates to a better film.and yes Thor was holding back. I actually gave some examples. What are your examples or proof he was going all out?
LOL, dat marvel fanboy hypocrisy.
Marvel drones are the ones who sound like a broken record, ''dur dur DC is ashamed of its comicbook roots'', just because the tone of the movie is serious doesnt mean the movie is grounded in reality, MoS is a movie about a godlike superpowered alien after all, and yeah MoS was more true to its source potrating that kind of power, who ****ing cares if looks ridiculous or not, that is a Superman fight and looking at Snyder last report things are going to get even more up to eleven in the sequels.
And lol at people complaining about the action, it was the most praised part of the movie.
And no, nerfed heroes doesnt make a better film imo, in fact its make Marvel Studios look a little cheap, i feel ripped off looking that tame ''Hulk'' and how chumpish ''Thor'' is , you can add Drax to that list now, i fear how they are gonna nerf Thanos.
Originally posted by TH3_V01D
LOL, dat marvel fanboy hypocrisy.
Marvel drones are the ones who sound like a broken record, ''dur dur DC is ashamed of its comicbook roots'', just because the tone of the movie is serious doesnt mean the movie is grounded in reality, MoS is a movie about a godlike superpowered alien after all, and yeah MoS was more true to its source potrating that kind of power, who ****ing cares if looks ridiculous or not, that is a Superman fight and looking at Snyder last report things are going to get even more up to eleven in the sequels.
And lol at people complaining about the action, it was the most praised part of the movie.And no, nerfed heroes doesnt make a better film imo, in fact its make Marvel Studios look a little cheap, i feel ripped off looking that tame ''Hulk'' and how chumpish ''Thor'' is , you can add Drax to that list now, i fear how they are gonna nerf Thanos.
So basically what you are saying is that the reason Marvel movies suck or you dislike them because they tone down their heroes or they seem very weak to you?
And you enjoyed MOS because "Muh Uber powah" feats and will love dawn of justice when Superman like punches the moon in half or something similar.
k. got it.