Why the Dark Side is stronger

It feeds off of extreme emotions, that allow the user to access unnaturally advanced and devastating abilities (Force drain, dark side worm-hole) that seem to progress each other.

Then there's ritualistic powers unearthed by the Dathomirian Witches and by ancient Sith Sorcerers that allow for spells that can resurrect, and rituals that can immortalize and greatly empower the sorc.

The light side has nothing but probability selection (the Will of the Force), we always see the uber Sith Lords fail to actualize their terrible plans because their plans fall apart, which has nothing to do with the light side user who achieves victory.

Anakin, Luke, Revan, Mace Windu, and Galen Marek were all known to utilize the dark side to progress the cause of the light side, and were able to get extreme momentary amps in power because of it. Especially Revan, and Luke on DSII.

Yet because they were light side practitioners none of them could fully commit to the dark side, the two prime examples of those who fully committed past the point of insanity were DE Sidious and Vitiate who went above and beyond the full scope of their abilities, and then some.

The dark side gives lots of flashy power, the light side puts you in the right place at the right time when it really counts.

I wouldn't say they have NOTHING other than Will of the Force. But you may have answered your own question. The Light Siders can tap into the Will of the Force, which is very powerful. The Dark Siders try to impose their own will into the Force. That's much harder to do. Sith plans falling apart is no accident. The Light Sider must subordinate himself to the Force, but in return he gains a powerful ally - as Yoda might say.

Originally posted by Q99
The dark side gives lots of flashy power, the light side puts you in the right place at the right time when it really counts.

As a fully devoted automaton of the light you put all your thoughts into those surrounding you, so that you can fully let go of your wants.

The dark side is the polar opposite, you're letting your natural self roam freely.

Both make their own luck, but one is making the Will of the Force actualize, and the other is making his most primal self actualize.

This is a great philosophy in my opinion. I'm a dark sider IRL. But not fully committed.

Neither the Dark nor the Lightside is stronger than the other. It is the practitioner that counts. Yes the darkside gives you destructive powers to wage war on the galaxy but the lightside is less destructive based, but that doesn't make it any less potent. You say the Dark siders have an advantage because they pull from extreme emotions but the lightside also has an advantage because they are trained to always have a calm mind. Do you want to be the destructive war lord or the stoic protector? Neither is stronger than the other persay

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Neither the Dark nor the Lightside is stronger than the other. It is the practitioner that counts. Yes the darkside gives you destructive powers to wage war on the galaxy but the lightside is less destructive based, but that doesn't make it any less potent. You say the Dark siders have an advantage because they pull from extreme emotions but the lightside also has an advantage because they are trained to always have a calm mind. Do you want to be the destructive war lord or the stoic protector? Neither is stronger than the other persay

It's more exhausting, it's a constant struggle to hold onto that much hate and constantly fight the way of natural progress.

When both the light and Dark are taken to their fullest extent, the two are for all intents and purposes equal.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
When both the light and Dark are taken to their fullest extent, the two are for all intents and purposes equal.

Calmness is shit-quality tractor fuel, hatred is like rocket booster fuel.

They say slow and steady wins the race, bullshit.

The Dark Side is just quicker and easier to wield, not stronger.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Dark Side is just quicker and easier to wield, not stronger.

Incorrect interpretation.

You get want you want faster with the dark side. But ultimately what you think you want is different from what you need or truly would want.

Your powers, the scope of your abilities, all the things you can do to achieve your goals, are acquired more quickly with selfishness and hatred as your main driving force.

The dark side is way more taxing on the body and the mind, it destroys most.

If the Dark Side I s stronger than the Lightside then why are the respective embodiment of each (The Son and Daughter) equels?

Originally posted by WildBantha88
If the Dark Side I s stronger than the Lightside then why are the respective embodiment of each (The Son and Daughter) equels?

The Force itself has the same power whether it is evil, good, or neutral.

A Sith's ultimate directive is to turn the Force to the Dark Side by virtue of dominating the will of all life. Plagueis was unique in his approach of just dominating the midi-chlorians slowly over time. He wasn't quite subtle enough.

The Jedi try to disperse the power balance perfectly evenly, trusting in the goodness of life to remain peaceful. Converting the Force to the light.

The Force in general remains neutral.

The Dark Side is more destructive, but not stronger.

A dark sider will use more energy at greater cost than he would has a light sider.

Force drain and force harmony have the same amp, only Force drain is collected into the individual and can keep the newly harnessed energy through corruption.

This light side does not offer these through Force harmony, multiple Force users have to pool their energy momentarily, a Sith just takes it from others permanently.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
If the Dark Side I s stronger than the Lightside then why are the respective embodiment of each (The Son and Daughter) equels?

Yes. And why do most great lords of the sith have a rival on the light side?

Sure, sometimes it happens that the dark one is stronger... but on the flip side, sometimes it's the light. Revan, Exile, Luke, and so on (heck, in Legacy, with Krayt dead Cade's the strongest force user in the galaxy). It took a thousand years to get a Sith who could beat Yoda, for 80-90% of the time the Rule of Two Sith were in hiding, if the master had come out and challenged the Jedi Grand Master, the Jedi'd have won.

Noomi Sunrider, Exar Kun, Darth Bane, all displayed superior capabilities to Yoda. Well, more advanced abilities and techniques and more impressive showings over all. Those names are the very tip of the iceberg, though.

When Yoda visited Bane's tomb, to me that showed the difference in power to whatever Bane used to be.

Even Talzin and especially Gethzerion had abilities neither Yoda nor the Emperor could ever replicate. Save DE Emperor but I don't count DE as canon.

Is this your way of trying to rationalize your own emotional extremes? By justifying it in fiction you vicariously find its merits in real life? Cuz I could see you doing that.

Originally posted by Oneness
Noomi Sunrider, Exar Kun, Darth Bane, all displayed superior capabilities to Yoda. Well, more advanced abilities and techniques and more impressive showings over all. Those names are the very tip of the iceberg, though.

When Yoda visited Bane's tomb, to me that showed the difference in power to whatever Bane used to be.

Even Talzin and especially Gethzerion had abilities neither Yoda nor the Emperor could ever replicate. Save DE Emperor but I don't count DE as canon.

Types of ability =/= power in the force.

Note how Mace Windu had very little in terms of types of force ability, just TK and saber... but he was still incredibly powerful because his force defense and skill with a saber allows him to murder almost anyone he faces with his laser sword because he doesn't need funkier abilities to be stronger.

Originally posted by Q99
Types of ability =/= power in the force.

Note how Mace Windu had very little in terms of types of force ability, just TK and saber... but he was still incredibly powerful because his force defense and skill with a saber allows him to murder almost anyone he faces with his laser sword because he doesn't need funkier abilities to be stronger.

Mace Windu was a great warrior, greater than Yoda but he was unable to repel Force lightning bare-handed.

The greater sorceror can not only repel lightning bare-handed, but can strip another of their ability to feel the Force. Nomi Sunrider had developed a greater ability and command of the Force. Even Satele Shan could grab a lightsaber blade bare-handed and deflect Force lightning bare-handed as well.

Satele Shan is a greatly underestimated character.

The Sith and Jedi of old had a greater command of the Force by far.

Look deep into it and you'll notice those with greater arcane knowledge in the mythos have more destructive abilities and can do more with the Force. Even in TK.

Look at Naga Sadow using Force amplification crystals he constructed with alchemy to destroy suns. Palpatine's space-storms, Darth Zannah's tendrils, NJO abilities. These are techniques untapped by any Jedi or Sith in the PT era.

Vader was also a great warrior, he wasn't much for tactics in his rage battle with Obi-wan but normally in the Clone Wars he had excellent utilization of Force and physical abilities culminated by great tactics. A trait his more experienced self bestowed upon Galen Marek, his most powerful apprentice.

Yet he never fully embraced the dark side and never harnessed the power he might have had.