In this scenario Rocket's gonna win. I find it hard to believe (though not that hard) people really think Batman's gonna cover 500 meters without any cover whatsoever against another character who has solid feats in his resume and high end energy weapons at his disposal without a plot device on Batman's side. If the fight took place in Gotham at night where Batman had cover and battlefield elements to work with, fine, he can make Rocket miss, but zero cover in an open flat area and 500 meters of distance? Come on now.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
In this scenario Rocket's gonna win. I find it hard to believe (though not that hard) people really think Batman's gonna cover 500 meters without any cover whatsoever against another character who has solid feats in his resume and high end energy weapons at his disposal without a plot device on Batman's side. If the fight took place in Gotham at night where Batman had cover and battlefield elements to work with, fine, he can make Rocket miss, but zero cover in an open flat area and 500 meters of distance? Come on now.
TheGodd@mnedBatman!!!!!!! wins...
Has dodged the Omega Effect....
He effortlessly covers that .5km distance, and crushes Rocket...
Yes, because getting the drop on someone in a lab and a an eye beam that inexplicably takes the most scenic route possible to hit a target directly in front of the source is completely analogous to being 500 meters away from someone in a featureless environment when they know you're coming.
I stand corrected.
And just in case you guys don't get it, yes, this is sarcasm.
Originally posted by MF DELPHGalan posted him dodging light srug
Yes, because getting the drop on someone in a lab and a an eye beam that inexplicably takes the most scenic route possible to hit a target directly in front of the source is completely analogous to being 500 meters away from someone in a featureless environment when they know you're coming.I stand corrected.
And just in case you guys don't get it, yes, this is sarcasm.
But in all seriousness, Batman batvanishes directly behind Rocket and punches his face off
He didn't dodge light, he tossed out some pellets that released particulates in the air that refracted Dr. Light's laser beams into harmless beams of light. It says as much in the scan. All energy weapons aren't the same, as in they don't all shoot lasers. Rocket uses plasma blasters and a variety of other weapons that incorporate charged particle ordinance, as well as high yield explosives and explosives which cause mini singularities. There's also the fact, which I keep reiterating and people seem to be overlooking, that they start off 500 meters away from each-other in a featureless environment. There's no cover for Batman to use to get the drop on Rocket, and if you guys are arguing that Batman carries enough smoke pellets and these "light refracting particulates" (which I'd also like to see established as standard equipment) to envelop an area greater than half a kilometer in zero visibility smoke I'm calling shenanigans.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19651295/2916140.jpg.html
Look at him skillfully dance to that light.
He snuck up behind Light, and dodged a close ranged light discharge from his extending arms (as in telegraphing the direction of the beams which emanate directly from the ends of his arms). Batman dodges punches, so he's going to be able to dodge someone extending their arms in his direction. He then tossed out his particulate bombs. That's not the same as dodging rapid fire plasma blast from long distance with no cover, and we both know that.
Originally posted by MF DELPHThe basic gist of it is that he cheapshots Dr Light, and then that page occurs. You can play up the aim dodging angle, but it's still impressive regardless.
He snuck up behind Light, and dodged a close ranged light discharge from his extending arms (as in telegraphing the direction of the beams which emanate directly from the ends of his arms). Batman dodges punches, so he's going to be able to dodge someone extending their arms in his direction. He then tossed out his particulate bombs. That's not the same as dodging rapid fire plasma blast from long distance with no cover, and we both know that.
However, shit like this has happened that you can't exactly say is aim dodging (Composite Superman):
http://i57.tinypic.com/69kprq.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/1zodli8.jpg
And if you're looking for more "realistic" things, he's danced around heat seeking missiles alongside Robin.
Batman dodges things. That's simply what he does. He's done the same to a compromised Superman a couple times.
To say it "impossible" for Batman to cover that distance isn't necessarily true. I mean, we all want it to be true. But there's more evidence for Batman's evasive skills than Rocket's marksmanship.
Actually, looking at the entirety of that second page, I can say it's aim dodging. C. Superman fires heat vision at the point where Batman is standing stationary, Batman dives away from that position, and then in the 3rd panel we see that Superman has kept that beam continuous as it's etched a burn mark in the ground toward the position Batman arrived at from his dive, at which point he presents a mirror and reflects the beam. And it's a moot point regardless because Batman and Superman were in a close enough proximity for Batman to see Superman initiate the attack. From half a kilometer away Batman's not going to be able to see what Rocket is doing unless he pulls out binoculars, and Rocket can likely snipe Batman with a plasma blast when he gets within 200-250 meters because there isn't any cover. It's primarily the distance that makes all of these scenarios you guys are suggesting unreasonable. I can't accept that in a non-plot driven scenario with no cover Batman is going to be able to close a distance of half a kilometer to go h2h against a character with plasma weapons and heavy explosives. That's just not washing.
Originally posted by MF DELPHlol why are you getting upset? the point of those scans is that bruce carries tech on his person that is tailor-made for dealing with energy-based weaponry. this is important because as you pointed out earlier: rocket uses energy-based weaponry. 🙂
Yes, because getting the drop on someone in a lab and a an eye beam that inexplicably takes the most scenic route possible to hit a target directly in front of the source is completely analogous to being 500 meters away from someone in a featureless environment when they know you're coming.I stand corrected.
And just in case you guys don't get it, yes, this is sarcasm.
and given some of the point-blank shit bruce has dodged in the past, i don't see the problem with people assuming that he might be able to dodge rocket's gunfire here(especially when he carries tech that can counter rocket's weapons.)
here bruce dodges multiple blasts from mister freeze at point-blank range:
here he dodges blasts from power ring at close range:
i can post a lot more, if you'd like. but as bran said: dodging shit is what batman does. dunno why rocket automatically becomes the exception to this on panel fact--the distance between them simply gives bruce more time to act, imo. 👆
