Originally posted by quanchi112
I can't see the evidence on my iPad.
You should know the battle in anyways. Final fight between Zod and Superman. Fighting at super speed while flying. Sending each other through buildings. Destroying satellites in space. Punches causing shockwaves etc... unless you haven't actually seen the film.
But, assuming you have in fact seen both MoS and GotG, you should still be able to answer the question I asked. But you didn't... so I guess you concede.
Superman wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ronin also wins as well.
LOL at Kai being able to beat Superman.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerRonan wins as the entire film is canon. Quit picking and choosing, sport.
You should know the battle in anyways. Final fight between Zod and Superman. Fighting at super speed while flying. Sending each other through buildings. Destroying satellites in space. Punches causing shockwaves etc... unless you haven't actually seen the film.But, assuming you have in fact seen both MoS and GotG, you should still be able to answer the question I asked. But you didn't... so I guess you concede.
Superman wins.
LOL at Kai being able to beat Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ronan wins as the entire film is canon. Quit picking and choosing, sport.
I am not picking and choosing anything, unlike you, who constantly refers to non-combat showings as your apparent "evidence" that MoS loses, while ignoring all the relevant combat feats. There is no oil rig Clark needs to hold up (without using flight) to save civilians, or a father he needs to rescue, or Kryptonians he needs to escape from, in the OP. So all the nonsense that you have brought up for your "case" is utterly irrelevant to the thread.
Fact is, fighting feats are way more relevant to a VS thread than non-fighting showings, like the oil rig, is. I have explained why already in a previous post. Superman isn't trying to rescue anyone. He is not trying to remain stationary while keeping some structure stable. He has all his powers. His aim is to beat Ronan. There is nothing in the OP to suggest that Superman will be standing around like a jacka$$, while Ronan finds some heavy structure to drop on him.
And even if the oil rig KO'd him (some people think it was simply him having a flashback), assuming he didn't get a durability boost when he fully unlocked his powers (despite this being contradicted by the mountain, satellite, city fight etc. showings), all we have to assume is that the force and/or sensory overload of a rig landing on him was greater than what Zod put out during their fight... which brings us full circle to where I stand...
I asked you this multiple times now, and will ask again. Provide an example of non-powered Ronan showing greater striking power than Zod did during his final fight against MoS, seeing as Superman was able to take all his hits without even getting a bloody nose. Unless Ronan can dish out more damage than Zod did in their final fight (we visibly see that what Zod did was NOT ENOUGH to take out Superman), he has no chance in hell of winning this.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerSuperman was ko'd and it is canon. A ship assraped Ronan and it did nothing of significance.
I am not picking and choosing anything, unlike you, who constantly refers to non-combat showings as your apparent "evidence" that MoS loses, while ignoring all the relevant combat feats. There is no oil rig Clark needs to hold up (without using flight) to save civilians, or a father he needs to rescue, or Kryptonians he needs to escape from, in the OP. So all the nonsense that you have brought up for your "case" is utterly irrelevant to the thread.Fact is, fighting feats are way more relevant to a VS thread than non-fighting showings, like the oil rig, is. I have explained why already in a previous post. Superman isn't trying to rescue anyone. He is not trying to remain stationary while keeping some structure stable. He has all his powers. His aim is to beat Ronan. There is nothing in the OP to suggest that Superman will be standing around like a jacka$$, while Ronan finds some heavy structure to drop on him.
And even if the oil rig KO'd him (some people think it was simply him having a flashback), assuming he didn't get a durability boost when he fully unlocked his powers (despite this being contradicted by the mountain, satellite, city fight etc. showings), all we have to assume is that the force and/or sensory overload of a rig landing on him was greater than what Zod put out during their fight... which brings us full circle to where I stand...
I asked you this multiple times now, and will ask again. Provide an example of non-powered Ronan showing greater striking power than Zod did during his final fight against MoS, seeing as Superman was able to take all his hits without even getting a bloody nose. Unless Ronan can dish out more damage than Zod did in their final fight (we visibly see that what Zod did was NOT ENOUGH to take out Superman), he has no chance in hell of winning this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman was ko'd and it is canon. A ship assraped Ronan and it did nothing of significance.
Please quote me where I said it wasn't canon. I said that the tower scenario was irrelevant, because the conditions for it are not replicated in this fight. Learn to read properly.
Superman also got crashed into by a giant satellite, sent through a mountain, multiple buildings etc. and was fine. But of course, you will ignore those and only look at the tower, picking and choosing your evidence, to lowball MoS.
So I will ask you this again. Provide an example of non-powered Ronan displaying greater striking power than Zod did during their final fight. If Ronan cannot hit harder than Zod, he cannot hurt MoS. If he cannot hurt MoS, he cannot beat him. Simple as that.
Oh, and prove that it was Ronan's innate durability that allowed him to tank the ship.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerYes, so when he has to physically exert himself he gets ko'd not when he typically crashes into things. Ronan kos him after Superman physically exerts himself. Learn to understand, kiddo.
Please quote me where I said it wasn't canon. I said that the tower scenario was irrelevant, because the conditions for it are not replicated in this fight. Learn to read properly.Superman also got crashed into by a giant satellite, sent through a mountain, multiple buildings etc. and was fine. But of course, you will ignore those and [B]only
look at the tower, picking and choosing your evidence, to lowball MoS.So I will ask you this again. Provide an example of non-powered Ronan displaying greater striking power than Zod did during their final fight. If Ronan cannot hit harder than Zod, he cannot hurt MoS. If he cannot hurt MoS, he cannot beat him. Simple as that.
Oh, and prove that it was Ronan's innate durability that allowed him to tank the ship. [/B]