Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma vs Darth Sidious (sabers only)

Started by The_Tempest3 pages

While I agree that Kun is more powerful than either Zabrak, I question whether either Kun or Uliq is a more skilled duelist than Maul, who is regularly and consistently touted as one of the most skilled warriors in Sith history and a high end master of multiple forms, or at least to the extent to challenge Sidious.

Without the Force, Q is right, this is a much harder contest given that Kun is considerably more powerful (if not more skilled) than the Jedi Sidious blitzed and faced.

Do they need to be more skilled than Maul? There is two of them after all, and with their power they'd represent a bigger threat than Maul did, surely.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Do they need to be more skilled than Maul? There is two of them after all, and with their power they'd represent a bigger threat than Maul did, surely.

I don't believe Uliq is as powerful as Maul or Kun. Either way, though, none of them can draw on the Force offensively here so it's a moot point.

I think this is a fairly close contest: Kun is powerful enough in the Force that Sidious can't blitz him and perhaps Uliq is too. But Sidious is unquestionably the greater fighter imho.

I'm inclined to say the team takes it but Uliq dies in the attempt.

Uliq might not be as powerful as Kun would eventually become, but he was his equal with a lightsaber when they fought. And he has some beastly feats like powering through Ommin's sorcery and deflected cannon-fire. And power in the Force does effect your lightsaber ability, remember. So I'm not bring it up with regards to their offensive powers, but in how it'll effect their dueling capabilities.

Yeah, but I still don't think Uliq is as powerful as Maul. I could believe that he's powerful enough to not get blitzed by Sidious like Tiin or Kolar, but he's not in Palpatine's league remotely.

I say Uliq's sacrifice enables Kun to get the victory.

I definitely think he's powerful enough to be on Maul's level at least in terms of saber ability. I mean, Obi-Wan was and Ulic is likely much more powerful than him. I think you're underestimating Ulic, he was the second most powerful person of the era (barring Vitiate from the equation duh). Maul was like, tenth?

Tenth? Wat?

Yoda/Sidious/Anakin/Talzin/Dooku/Mace......

who else?

I wasn't thinking too hard about it.

Kar Vastor and maybe the Dark Woman (considering her fight with Vader).

I think Ventress could have eclipsed him in time too btw.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I definitely think he's powerful enough to be on Maul's level at least in terms of saber ability. I mean, Obi-Wan was and Ulic is likely much more powerful than him. I think you're underestimating Ulic, he was the second most powerful person of the era (barring Vitiate from the equation duh). Maul was like, tenth?

Nah, I think (as usual), you're underestimating Maul, who has Uliq by the balls with respect to both feats and accolades. I'm sure Uliq is a comparable swordsman to Maul, but I'd still give Maul the edge overall.

Originally posted by Q99
They're master and apprentice, they should be pretty darn good together.

That status doesn't mean anything. They've only actually met once.

Wat

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That status doesn't mean anything. They've only actually met once.

Its a few more than that, actually.

They have a chance against Sidious only if Qel-Droma is cut off the Force.

Sidious, easily.

Originally posted by Oron Garfeln
Either would solo this pretty easily

LOL

Sidious with high difficulty.

Originally posted by Oron Garfeln
Nothing I said was facepalm worthy bro.

Ulic or Kun "easily" defeating Sidious in a lightsaber duel is completely facepalm worthy.

To be fair they could both stomp Darth Bane

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
LOL