Ferguson Riots

Started by Robtard74 pages
Originally posted by Tzeentch
I think the guy on tape looks like Brown, and wouldn't be surprised if it was him.

You think all black people look the same though.

There is video that shows that someone, most likely Brown, paid for some cigars. The owner also said that neither he, nor any of his employees, called the police.

The part of the video that the police released does show an altercation between the store owner and, most likely, Brown, but not a robbery.

At any rate, the officer that shot Brown had no knowledge that Brown was a suspect in what happened, and his stopping of Brown had nothing to do with whatever may or may not have transpired in the store earlier.

Well, they are all related and know each other.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I think the guy on tape looks like Brown, and wouldn't be surprised if it was him.

Bro, you know this is all silly right, if it was a black cop who shot him, no one would have cared. Have you ever looked at black and black crime rate? Its higher then any other demographic in the country.

That there is a violence problem in black, and in particular poor, communities, doesn't excuse the structural, institutional racism of US law enforcement.

Originally posted by Bardock42
There is video that shows that someone, most likely Brown, paid for some cigars. The owner also said that neither he, nor any of his employees, called the police.

The part of the video that the police released does show an altercation between the store owner and, most likely, Brown, but not a robbery.

At any rate, the officer that shot Brown had no knowledge that Brown was a suspect in what happened, and his stopping of Brown had nothing to do with whatever may or may not have transpired in the store earlier.

It could still be relevant to Brown's state of mind, though.

Originally posted by BackFire
It could still be relevant to Brown's state of mind, though.

Perhaps, but that is most definitely not the spin that the US media puts on the "robbery" issue.

Well, we're all idiots here in the US.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That there is a violence problem in black, and in particular poor, communities, doesn't excuse the structural, institutional racism of US law enforcement.

When the people are manipulated by the democrates, black caucus and black panthers, into this type of mentality of "blame the white folk", "don't worry about them, let us handle it, vote for us" that is oppression on many levels.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That there is a violence problem in black, and in particular poor, communities, doesn't excuse the structural, institutional racism of US law enforcement.

I have been researching this and I am having a difficult time substantiating either side of this case:

People saying it is not racist:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewsubcategory.asp?id=1627

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-myth-of-racist-criminal-justice.html

People saying it is racist:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/fourteen-examples-of-raci_b_658947.html

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jul/18/racism-thrives-in-us-criminal-justice-system/

Here's a site you can plagiarize in college (it does a much better job of presenting both sides):

http://www.cliffsnotes.com/more-subjects/criminal-justice/criminal-justice-in-the-us/is-the-criminal-justice-system-racist

I think Cliff Notes does a good job of stating where the truth is:

“The criminal justice system is neither completely free of racial bias nor systematically biased.” Drawing from hundreds of studies of race and criminal justice, Walker and his colleagues take the middle ground. They argue that racial/ethnic groups are treated more harshly than whites at some stages in the system but no differently from whites at other stages."

IIRC, the "it's not racist" people are using capital offenses to make their case. They say that whites are treated more harshly than minorities. But that seems like a slightly dishonest approach to the topic because there are many other types of crimes.

I think it depends on which city we are looking at: some places are super racist and others are not.

Read this story about this guy, who has a Ph.D., who had an unfair run-in with the NYPD. It doesn't really have a happy ending so don't expect genuine closure. Also, it is a lengthy read but I found it interesting. It speaks of the disconnect between law-enforcement and the people they deal with.

https://medium.com/human-parts/good-samaritan-backfire-9f53ef6a1c10

IMO, shit like what is happening in Ferguson is a symptom of the problem you find in that story.

This will go one way like OJ.

He was given a innocent verdict because they could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt he was guilty, but certain all still know he is guilty.

The officer if goes to court will be proven innocent but people will still think he is guilty.

But hey TIA, anything goes😂

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
This will go one way like OJ.

He was given a innocent verdict because they could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt he was guilty, but certain all still know he is guilty.


It wasn't actually a matter of an absence of proof, it was a matter of the jury not understanding what DNA was and that (unlike a bloodtest) it could pick out a single person apart from the rest of the human race. If the trial happened today its very likely that even an all black crowd would be forced to officially accept OJ's guilt based on the evidence.

Also racial tension.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Clearly it had some effect on him since he robbed a store so he could get high again. Maybe his weed was laced?

Are there reports of blacks denied admittance into the FPD?

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Just saw this.

Of course there aren't. And there don't have to be. Ever heard of De Facto discrimination?

If you knew ahead of time before applying to a job that--if accepted--you'd be treated with coldness and maybe even contempt by most of your coworkers and seen as something of a traitor by your community, wouldn't you be discouraged from applying?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
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Just saw this.

Of course there aren't. And there don't have to be. Ever heard of De Facto discrimination?

If you knew ahead of time before applying to a job that--if accepted--you'd be treated with coldness and maybe even contempt by most of your coworkers and seen as something of a traitor by your community, wouldn't you be discouraged from applying?

Is there any documented evidence that a black man would be treated with coldness or contempt by "most of" his coworkers in the police force? And I guess I'll ask if there's any evidence that the community would shun him as well, but I'm honestly only doing that so I don't look racist.

Nemebro just pmed me and told me he hated black people.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It wasn't actually a matter of an absence of proof, it was a matter of the jury not understanding what DNA was and that (unlike a bloodtest) it could pick out a single person apart from the rest of the human race. If the trial happened today its very likely that even an all black crowd would be forced to officially accept OJ's guilt based on the evidence.

Also racial tension.

You are very wise.

YouTube video

facepalm

Originally posted by Mindset
Nemebro just pmed me and told me he hated black people.

Weird, I got the same PM.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nemebro just pmed me and told me he hated black people.
One time a black guy was rude to me in a subway train. Ever since then I've hated black people.