Originally posted by Robtard
I've said similar in here over 7-8 years ago, iirc the argument I used was something like: "If I [gay] man gets attacked and beaten brutally, is it really worse for him if the attackers are calling him names while kicking in his face, as opposed to just kicking in his face?"
It's different to be beaten because of someone personally disliking you. But when hated and abused for just being what you are and something you didn't choose it has a different effect on you. Yes the physical pain doesn't change but the mental aspect is different, there is nothing you can do even if you try to avoid them they may find out and do it again or worst or someone else may hear and do it too.
While I'm unsure of how the law should handle it, the reasons you get beat up do effect you.
Originally posted by Newjak
Personally I think hate crimes are stupid to begin with. I understand why they were originally put in place. But truth be told I don't think a crime should carry more weight just because you hated something about the victim.Why because if you murder someone you are a murderer and should be treated as such. I don't care if you did it based on race, nationality, or gender preference. The act it self to me doesn't become any more deplorable than it already was.
I actually agree.
But as long as the laws exist, I think they should be applied without bias.
Originally posted by Bardock42
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The only one of those that was not racist or even lightly racist was "Why isn't there a White Entertainment Television Channel?"
That's a good question. The answer is: "White Culture, in America, is so diverse that it would be impossible to capture all of it in one channel. It is also not that varied. So while it is diverse, the depth of the diversity is not that remarkable. African American Culture is very very different, in many ways, and many people, including white people, enjoy these cultural differences. African American culture is also diverse and quite deep in its diversity. TL : DR - White people just are not that interesting."
But that's the half-assed and naive answer. The real answer is a combination of 2 things: [1] African American culture strongly pushing for a loud-mouth, overly show-offy, and offensive culture which makes it entertaining and [2]So some rich old white dudes wanted to make money of this this when African American culture was becoming quite the pop-culture in the entertainment industry. TL : DR - Old rich white people wanted the funny negroes to entertain them and make them money.
Here's my opinion on why there is no such thing as WET: it would be seen as racist. lol
Originally posted by Robtard
I've said similar in here over 7-8 years ago, iirc the argument I used was something like: "If I [gay] man gets attacked and beaten brutally, is it really worse for him if the attackers are calling him names while kicking in his face, as opposed to just kicking in his face?"
I would say assault for discriminatory reasons deserves harsher punishment than assault for personal ones.
It's only worth treating a hate crime differently from a regular violent crime when it's part of a trend or a movement.
If a guy gets into an argument with a black man and shoots him because he's black, I don't see why it should be treated any differently than any other case where one man shoots another man after a dispute.
If however a community experiences a series of attacks against black people by white people, the response should be leveled up to deter such organized hate crimes.
Much as organized crime has higher priority and higher penalties than other crime, so should organized prejudice.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
If however a community experiences a series of attacks against black people by white people, the response should be leveled up to deter such organized hate crimes.
Severity of Punishment does not deter crime nor does it decrease recidivism. In fact, harsher sentences actually increase recidivism.
"...contrary to deterrence ideology and 'get tough' rhetoric, the bulk of research on the deterrent effects of harsher sentences fails to support these assertions."
http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/deterrence%20briefing%20.pdf
And here are the sources the gentleman uses to cite his reasoning:
13 Paul Gendreau, T. Little, and Claire Goggin, “A Meta-Analysis of Adult Offender Recidivism: What Works!”
Criminology, 34(3):575-607, 1996.
14 Martin A. Levin, “Policy Evaluation and Recidivism,” Law and Society Review, 6(1):17-46, 1971.
15 Lin Song and Roxanne Lieb, “Recidivism: The Effect of Incarceration and Length of Time Served,” Olympia, WA:
Washington State Institute of Public Policy, 1993
Here's a much better and easier to read news article:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29018911
So the police in Ferguson are starting to use body cameras while on the job. I think this is something all uniformed police should have because not only does it add accountability but it also protects them in case they should be falsely accused of brutality.
To make it more accountable there should be some way of ensuring that the police can't tamper with or record over the footage without first getting clearance from their superiors.
For obvious reasons, this probably won't work for plainclothes cops.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29018911So the police in Ferguson are starting to use body cameras while on the job. I think this is something all uniformed police should have because not only does it add accountability but it also protects them in case they should be falsely accused of brutality.
To make it more accountable there should be some way of ensuring that the police can't tamper with or record over the footage without first getting clearance from their superiors.
For obvious reasons, this probably won't work for plainclothes cops.
I read this, too. I loved the shit out of it.
Everywhere needs to do this (law enforcement).
Originally posted by Bardock42
http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-wacky-farts-that-can-help-us-understand-ferguson-mo/
Holy shit, did Rogue Jedi write that article?
The Ferguson protester tried reaching out to Rams fan. So was the cop proven innocent by the evidences?
http://www.inquisitr.com/1551664/ferguson-protesters-at-rams-game-tangle-with-fans/
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