Ferguson Riots

LO phucking L. Do you know what lewrockwell is? Here's a brief description from their site :ANTI-STATE•ANTI-WAR•PRO-MARKET. Clearly an objective, informed, and trustworthy source if I ever saw one 😆

I can not wait to see what BS source you post about Brown tanking multiple bullets.

I didn't tell you anything about your manual labor job. I said if you can be on KMC you can be on google, which you just proved, so you can stop crying now. And insulting my unemployment? Stop being butthurt because I'm trashing you in this debate, kid.

Originally posted by Lestov16
LO phucking L. Do you know what lewrockwell is? Here's a brief description from their site :ANTI-STATE•ANTI-WAR•PRO-MARKET. Clearly an objective, informed, and trustworthy source if I ever saw one 😆

I can not wait to see what BS source you post about Brown tanking multiple bullets.

I didn't tell you anything about your manual labor job. I said if you can be on KMC you can be on google, which you just proved, so you can stop crying now. And insulting my unemployment? Stop being butthurt because I'm trashing you in this debate, kid.

Are you a complete moron sitting in moms house?

That was a unbiased source which didn't pick sides.

You have really turned for the worst man. I used to like talking to you, but I can see you are all about government hand outs, Social Security Disability, food stamps that you get.

You love the carrot but hate the stick. Just like Michael Brown.

And for the record kiddo, you 16 or 17 right?

You would not last a day in the real world.

Stay at home with mom and keep collecting those checks homie.

Happy Thanksgiving btw.

Wow, so much ad hominem attacks and racial stereotypes. I don't know what to say. Let me try.

You are saying I love govt. handouts (I don't; my family (particularly my mom) receives SSI and food stamps, but only because she has this:
http://www.syracusewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/IMAG1127.jpg ; but I guess her having cerebral palsy is just laziness to you LOL) but I hate the law (I don't; I just hate when the law acts unprofessionally, which the Brown case was a clear case of)

that is so nonsensical, not to mention how you're turning the Brown case into a forum for your silly GOP agenda.

You are SO misinformed, man. SO misinformed. The ad hominem attacks just further show your ignorance and desperation 😆

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
And for the record kiddo, you 16 or 17 right?

You would not last a day in the real world.

Stay at home with mom and keep collecting those checks homie.

Happy Thanksgiving btw.

No.

Already have.

What?

"homie"- WHAT???

Backatcha

Originally posted by Lestov16
Wow, so much ad hominem attacks and racial stereotypes. I don't know what to say. Let me try.

You are saying I love govt. handouts (I don't; my family (particularly my mom) receives SSI and food stamps, but only because she has this:
http://www.syracusewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/IMAG1127.jpg ; but I guess her having cerebral palsy is just laziness to you LOL) but I hate the law (I don't; I just hate when the law acts unprofessionally, which the Brown case was a clear case of)

that is so nonsensical, not to mention how you're turning the Brown case into a forum for your silly GOP agenda.

You are SO misinformed, man. SO misinformed. The ad hominem attacks just further show your ignorance and desperation 😆

Desperation? Look who's defending a thug that got killed because he attacked a cop!!!!

Hahahahaha

Do you know how foolish this is?

What does this have to do with GOP? I could care less about their agenda. It's called right and wrong.

I don't care so much about Brown as I do about police having the ability and justification to fatally wound unarmed suspects.

5th time. Proof of Brown tanking bullets?

Your rant there about carrots and sticks was entirely a GOP agenda-fest.

He was def not a bullet timer bro🙂

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?referrer=

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
...What does this have to do with GOP? I could care less about their agenda. It's called right and wrong.

Yep, he's a nut. You know, some people see it as left or wrong. 😉

The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.

I won't say for certain, as the article doesn't state about clothing gunshot residue, but based on the lack of gunpowder on his body (Surely the head shot, if your claim was correct, would have had some gunshot residue), he probably wasn't killed at close range, which eradicates the justification of Brown tanking bullets until he was right next to Wilson.

Omg what else do you want!!!!

You are insane looking at this the way you are.

He got shot in the head because he would not stop.

End of story, case closed,

Justice served.

RIP Michael Brown

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yep, he's a nut. You know, some people see it as left or wrong. 😉

Originally posted by Time Immemorial

He got shot in the head because he would not stop.

You haven't even proven that he was in motion, but EVEN if he was in motion, look at the autopsy. Funny, I notice no wounds to the leg, which would be the primary spot to wound a mobile suspect. There is zero evidence that Wilson tried to shoot to wound. Only shots to the arm and head, as if Wilson was firing sporadically and panicked.

And justice served? For what, assaulting a cop? Again, do you think the police have the right to kill anybody who assaults them?

As to the conversation you two are having:

IMO, the eye-witness account that most closely matches with the forensic report is the one from the construction worker:

A construction worker at the nearby apartment complex, who spoke to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on condition of anonymity, said that he saw Brown running away with Wilson 10 to 15 feet behind. About 90 feet away from the vehicle, Wilson fired a shot at Brown, whose back was turned. Brown stumbled, stopped, put his hands up and said "OK, OK, OK, OK, OK." The worker believed Brown had been wounded. With his hands up, Brown began walking toward the officer, at which point Wilson began firing at Brown and backing away. After the third shot, Brown’s hands started going down, and he moved about 25 feet toward Wilson, who kept backing away and firing. The worker was unable to discern if Brown's movement toward the officer was "a stumble to the ground" or "OK, I'm going to get you, you're already shooting me." The worker disputed the claim that Brown rushed at the officer, "I don't know if he was going after him or if he was falling down to die. It wasn't a bull rush."

In a cellphone video obtained by CNN on September 11, which captured the reaction of the construction worker and a colleague, one of them can be heard saying "He had his f**n hands up." The workers said they were approximately 50 feet away from Wilson when he opened fire. Jeffrey Toobin, CNN's legal analyst said that this video could play an important role in the case."

Also, Lestov, I posted in this thread some police protocol. It says to meet lethal force with lethal force, not shoot to wound.

Here is a post I wrote regarding that notion:

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're not correct especially because you referenced CA.

The use of a firearm is justified, by most police departments, if an officer determines that the use of lethal force is necessary to prevent serious bodily harm (or death) to him/herself or others. If Wilson was treated for an assault, there is your justification (still waiting on those medical records that show Wilson was beaten...).

If he was beaten by Brown in his car, this is justification enough to use lethal force. Lethal force can be a taser or firearm (tasers are considered the less-lethal options).

Here is some stuff from the Cincinnati PD that I found:

http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/police/assets/File/Procedures/12550.pdf

Hmm. Thanks for posting SOURCES DDM. IDK if I accept it though. If Wilson was beaten in his car and shot Brown during that confrontation, I would have no problem justifying it as self-defense. But at the point Brown was shot, less-lethal options were possible and should have been considered.

You such a BS master, you won't accept any source other then your own.

Less lethal shots were fired, didn't you read the NYT article?

Brown is dead. Start the grieving process already.

Thanks for that incredibly deep insight, TI.

Anyways, as I stated, less lethal options were available and should have been considered.

I don't think those arm shots were meant to wound. Wilson was probably just firing sporadically.

Originally posted by Lestov16
You haven't even proven that he was in motion, but EVEN if he was in motion, look at the autopsy. Funny, I notice no wounds to the leg, which would be the primary spot to wound a mobile suspect. There is zero evidence that Wilson tried to shoot to wound. Only shots to the arm and head, as if Wilson was firing sporadically and panicked.

And justice served? For what, assaulting a cop? Again, do you think the police have the right to kill anybody who assaults them?

Yes I do believe if he was afraid for his life in this David and Goliath situation he did what he had to do.

He tried to get his gun, ran away, came back to beat Wilson up and Wilson did what he had to do. I would have done the same thing.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes I do believe if he was afraid for his life in this David and Goliath situation he did what he had to do.

He tried to get his gun, ran away, came back to beat Wilson up and Wilson did what he had to do. I would have done the same thing.

Deal with it.

Wait, we all should show more concern for the life of a young black man, and burn all of Ferguson to the ground. JK.

About 90 feet away from the vehicle, Wilson fired a shot at Brown, whose back was turned. Brown stumbled, stopped, put his hands up and said "OK, OK, OK, OK, OK." The worker believed Brown had been wounded.

Yeah, shot him while his back was turned. Sure sounds like self-defense to me 😂

the rest of the testimony makes it unclear whether Brown tried to attack him or not, so your perfect mental image of what happened is incomplete. You act like you know exactly what happened when even the witnesses don't know.

You would have done the same thing? Don't quit your day job to be a cop in that case.