If Thanos is a 100 in Formidability....

Originally posted by Enzeru
Carver, do you want to compare Hulk's speed feats with Sentry's speed feats? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Now shut up and go and post some more fights, where a Hulk lands a good shot, but hide away the rest of the fight, where he gets his face smashed in afterwards.

What are you talking about? I don't have to compare anything when I can easily post a scan of Hulk busting Sentry face open during mid blitz. You need to calm down and realize these characters aren't real and stop getting your feelings hurt when someone doesn't agree with you.

Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about? I don't have to compare anything when I can easily post a scan of Hulk busting Sentry face open during mid blitz.

Of course he does. Because he is the Hulk and it's a Marvel comic. I just just as easily show you tons of scans, where Sentry performs speed feats, where Hulk wouldn't even come close to them: traveling, movement and reaction feats.

This is what you mean by saying that Hulk "busted Sentry's face mid blitz:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179380-6.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179381-7.jpg

(^ And there I would even argue that it was a mentally unstable Sentry, who is overall less powerful - even in the speed department.)

And here we have an actual portrayal of Sentry's speed, where he disappears from the spot and appears behind the Punisher (who doesn't even manage to finish a thought in the meantime) - and Punisher was few miles away at that point:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179458-4.jpg

Hulk on the other hand needs more than half a minute to run a similar distance:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/4016401-01.jpg

"But Enzeru, this is about reaction speed and not traveling speed!" ... Oh Carver, you fool.
Hulk needs 40 seconds to run few miles, because his movement is slow. Even if we give him the benefit of a doubt that he has a great reaction speed, his body still lacks the power set to execute the needed movement to run fast.

Or would you argue that the Hulk is so fast, that he can replicate such a speed feat:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180797-2.jpg

In a properly written fight a character like Sentry / Gladiator / [insert any speedster] Hulk would get punched over and over and over again in the face and he would be frozen in time for them.
Even if he has the reaction feats, there is not even one showing of movement speed for him that leads us to believe that he can move his body parts from point A to point B to tag someone as fast as them. He only tags them, because they're constantly being dumbed down to their speed levels and fans like you are the reason for that.

Sentry's speed is superior to Hulk's. You know that, but ...

Originally posted by carver9
You need to calm down and realize these characters aren't real and stop getting your feelings hurt when someone doesn't agree with you.

... on this board you're literally going over corpses in order to make arguments for the Hulk, even when there are no arguments. And the way you do it, makes you look sooo stupid and it's also the reason why a ton of people is constantly making fun of you, while I personally sometimes even defend you and say that some of the things you say hold some value to them. But these moments are super rare and if it's about the Hulk, no one should even try looking for common sense from you.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Of course he does. Because he is the Hulk and it's a Marvel comic. I just just as easily show you tons of scans, where Sentry performs speed feats, where Hulk wouldn't even come close to them: traveling, movement and reaction feats.

This is what you mean by saying that Hulk "busted Sentry's face mid blitz:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179380-6.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179381-7.jpg

(^ And there I would even argue that it was a mentally unstable Sentry, who is overall less powerful - even in the speed department.)

And here we have an actual portrayal of Sentry's speed, where he disappears from the spot and appears behind the Punisher (who doesn't even manage to finish a thought in the meantime) - and Punisher was few miles away at that point:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179458-4.jpg

Hulk on the other hand needs more than half a minute to run a similar distance:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/4016401-01.jpg

"But Enzeru, this is about reaction speed and not traveling speed!" ... Oh Carver, you fool.
Hulk needs 40 seconds to run few miles, because his movement is slow. Even if we give him the benefit of a doubt that he has a great reaction speed, his body still lacks the power set to execute the needed movement to run fast.

Or would you argue that the Hulk is so fast, that he can replicate such a speed feat:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2180797-2.jpg

In a properly written fight a character like Sentry / Gladiator / [insert any speedster] Hulk would get punched over and over and over again in the face and he would be frozen in time for them.
Even if he has the reaction feats, there is not even one showing of movement speed for him that leads us to believe that he can move his body parts from point A to point B to tag someone as fast as them. He only tags them, because they're constantly being dumbed down to their speed levels and fans like you are the reason for that.

Sentry's speed is superior to Hulk's. You know that, but ...

... on this board you're literally going over corpses in order to make arguments for the Hulk, even when there are no arguments. And the way you do it, makes you look sooo stupid and it's also the reason why a ton of people is constantly making fun of you, while I personally sometimes even defend you and say that some of the things you say hold some value to them. But these moments are super rare and if it's about the Hulk, no one should even try looking for common sense from you.

And you have the right to talk about anyone's posts? Lol. I'm not here to insult you buddy, I just think you are looking at speed in a different fashion than most. You can post all the speed fts you want, that still doesn't contradict what I've said, Hulk punched a blitzing Sentry clean in the face with no problem and kept up with him the entire time (a non holding back Sentry). Just like you can post Superman speed fts, it still doesn't contradict the fact that Doomsday went blow for blow with him. I respect your opinion, if you think Sentry is this godly speed being that is untouchable, oh well. Just know there are people out there that disagree on him being untouchable...especially by the likes of Hulk. Please don't reply back with a bible because I'm not reading it. Like I've stated before, I don't have a problem with you thinking Sentry is u touchable.

Originally posted by riv6672
So if making a joke is troll behavior what is posting the original mean spirited comment, make you? An orc? 😛

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I don't get how Thanos' armor is even a point. He always has it and thus makes the distinction irrelevant. Even if his armor was his only durability, it'd be like trying to separate Iron Man from his armor.

Or he took that big omniblast from Tyrant point blank, half power screams directly in the face by Black Bolt without issue, or a gas giant blowing up directly in his face. Etc. Not to mention everytime he's been hit right in his face.
If that's not enough, his dead body tanked Galactus' galaxy destroying attack point blank in Annihilation, and in a weakened naked form he took a surprise shot from the Cosmic Cube which only knocked his mental defenses loose (though it did rock him)

Using Maker to prove a point is faulty considering she surprised Thanos and she was still thought to have unlimited power albeit on a lesser level.

Thanos' armor is basically like Thor's armor. It's not a big deal.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I literally see no connection with his battle armor and some significant increase in durability because of it. You haven't come close to proving your case in that regard. Put it this way.. show me narration that says his battle armor increase his durability in any kind of significant manner. You haven't shown that in the least. I cited actually feats from Thanos that back up my case that he HAS dealt with speed and numerous times.

You keep on brining up the PIS or CIS card like Thanos' is some kinda normal human. We're talking about a mutant being from a technologically and physiologically advanced race. A race that can teleport use TK and TP etc etc... yet you act like he's has human level speed or something. He doesn't and isn't like Hulk in this regard. It's totally and completely plausible that he also has good reflexes to go along with all the other abilities he has. You're also discounting that he's a genius and superb tactician. Thus, much like in real life sports, people with advanced minds can see things before they happen. Can develop strats on the fly to attain them victory. Why would Thanos be any different. If he can read what SS might do or go or be at.. and then anticipate such movement.. why is that so hard for you to believe? IT should be, yet it is.

You're going by why YOU think should happen... to be frank.. nobody really care what YOU THINK at Marvel. On this forum and in anything really we go by proof and facts. The facts produced by Marvel suggest he can deal with speed and has good reaction feats. THEY gave him those feats and feel he has that powerset. You thinking he shouldn't or not liking it has NO bearing on anything. He has the feats to back up the claims made... it's that simple. NO amount of nah or no way or I don't believe that is weighted more than facts. Sorry bud

Ohh and Enzeru... I'm not Hulk fan.. but we've seen hulk be able to jump from State to state.. I've even seen a scan of him jumping from Continent to continent... So he surely doesn't need any amount of time to go a few miles.

A question for Enzeru

If a character had consistent showing of reacting to faster opponents, when does it stop becoming pis/cis?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
A question for Enzeru

If a character had consistent showing of reacting to faster opponents, when does it stop becoming pis/cis?

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Good question.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
someone tired of reading bullshit.

Originally posted by riv6672
This is the third time we've directly interacted. If you dont like my posts in general you can always put me on ignore.

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ohh and Enzeru... I'm not Hulk fan.. but we've seen hulk be able to jump from State to state.. I've even seen a scan of him jumping from Continent to continent... So he surely doesn't need any amount of time to go a few miles.

Originally posted by riv6672
I've always wondered about that. Is that super speed or enormous hang time?

I would probably say super speed. It's up to you though.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319505/Avengers_v524.NOW-025.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319506/Avengers_v524.NOW-026.jpg.html

Ah, okay.
I'd say super speed, just in an unconventional way.

90s Superboy had strength feats, but it was tactile TK. Same result, different means.
Not a perfect analogy i know, but i see the point being made.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Originally posted by carver9
8. DD - guessing you mean Doomsday and not Daredevil. 100

Always thought it was hang time

Hulk has some degree of superhuman speed/reflexes. This is clear not only from his running and jumping feats but from his fights, with him able to tag people/objects with superhuman speed.

Of course he's not Flash or even Quicksilver, but he definitely has superhuman speed/reflexes (even his gamma maths reflect this in a way).

Uh, I remeber a scan of Professor Hulk(?) mixing up some... stuff at incredibly speed in a lab or something? 😕

Originally posted by Squirtle
Hulk has some degree of superhuman speed/reflexes. This is clear not only from his running and jumping feats but from his fights, with him able to tag people/objects with superhuman speed.

Of course he's not Flash or even Quicksilver, but he definitely has superhuman speed/reflexes (even his gamma maths reflect this in a way).

Uh, I remeber a scan of Professor Hulk(?) mixing up some... stuff at incredibly speed in a lab or something? 😕

Both Thanos and Hulk have super speed. I think Enzu knows that, £ i just think he is debating on the fact that they don't have the speed to tag Sentry, Superman, etc...

Originally posted by Insane Titan
didn't you know Silver Surfer was twice as formidable as Thanos, more formidable than Tyrant and as formidable as Odin!

Originally posted by riv6672
This is the third time we've directly interacted since i've been here. If you dont like my posts in general you can always put me on ignore.

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