Thor -Vs- Superman : Aaa has this fight ever been done before?

Started by DarkOdin9 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair enough.

Was there anything special about the human-carrying-elephant?

I wager he wasn't as 'ripped' as Clark would be.

So Clark would be able to carry an elephant too, no?

So if Clark has human-level strength, and you've proven that human level means elephant carrying.....

true humans can lift an elephant, however clark and every other human doesn't have the feats to back it .

But there was nothing special about this strong man.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair enough.

Was there anything special about the human-carrying-elephant?

I wager he wasn't as 'ripped' as Clark would be.

So Clark would be able to carry an elephant too, no?

So if Clark has human-level strength, and you've proven that human level means elephant carrying.....

Clark has some seemingly superhuman feats when he was amnesic or whatever and powerless and thought he was Gangbuster, but I'll have to find the comics.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But there was nothing special about this strong man.
nope just one of the strongest guys they could find for the circus

Originally posted by DarkOdin
nope just one of the strongest guys they could find for the circus

But still human level (as in, no serum/chi/heart shaped herbs/mutations), right? So if Clark was there, he too would be able to lift an elephant, even if its a baby elephant, as he would be in the same magnitude as this strong man (i.e. in the ballpark of a normal human guy of his height and build who engages in regular intensive exercise).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But still human level (as in, no serum/chi/heart shaped herbs/mutations), right? So if Clark was there, he too would be able to lift an elephant, even if its a baby elephant, as he would be in the same magnitude as this strong man (i.e. in the ballpark of a normal human guy of his height and build who engages in regular intensive exercise).
you can't say that because regular intenisve exercise makes you a strong man.

You have bodybuidlers, powerlifters etc.... the strong man would be on the higher tiers where would clark be you would need a feat to back it. the punisher would fall into your class but he doesn't have the feat to back it

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But still human level (as in, no serum/chi/heart shaped herbs/mutations), right? So if Clark was there, he too would be able to lift an elephant, even if its a baby elephant, as he would be in the same magnitude as this strong man (i.e. in the ballpark of a normal human guy of his height and build who engages in regular intensive exercise).
That'd be like assuming these queens are as strong as Kingpin just because of the bav no explanation thing going on.

Fact is Thor is way stronger than a human when he's still a human. He's either stronger than Superman by a large degree and more skilled or he's just more skilled. Either way you look at it.

Just because Supremex overlooked the comics that doesn't mean we take away every showing of Thor being human. Although I can see why we'd want to because iirc he was comparable to Cap a few times.

Wow, only comic fans would quibble over what a powerless human is....i'm so confused as to which version of Thor beats which version of Supes. 😂

Clark knows the deadliest martial art in any universe

TORQASM-VO

Thor dies..brutally!

😂

I honestly don't get the argument

Peak human Thor > Peak Human Supes
depowered Thor >>> Depowered Supes
Thor > Supes.

😈

So, I skimmed through the time Superman would black out and think he was Gangbuster. His mind has suppressed his powers to the point he didn't have them before. Here's some strength stuff, most of it pretty typical of Street Levelers.

Breaks down metal doors.

Tosses guys like ragdolls and casually holding them up with one hand.

Shatters doors and desks and breaks through a mystic sphere" that said to have held 6 men helpless in the past.

Throws a guard into a bunch of other guards then lifts the table and uses it to barricade the door.

After landing from a few stories into a garbage bin, breaks it. This was before Guardian found-out he's Superman, which led to Superman finding what he was doing.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But still human level (as in, no serum/chi/heart shaped herbs/mutations), right? So if Clark was there, he too would be able to lift an elephant, even if its a baby elephant, as he would be in the same magnitude as this strong man (i.e. in the ballpark of a normal human guy of his height and build who engages in regular intensive exercise).

Uh... you are (wrongly) asuming that just because a man can do something, every men should be be able to do it.

There are biological differences, not everybody is able to do something, just because somebody else does it. In those cases no amount of "intensive exercise" will make it possible either.

You can be human and still be the ONLY human being known in the face of the Earth capable of doing x stuff. In those cases talking about "human level" as something possible for any human to reach is... 😕 not right.

http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/karnazes-effect
http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/stan-lees-superhumans/videos/?video=stan-lees-superhuman-super-strength
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/24344/title/The-world-s-densest-bones/

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Thor > Supes.

😈

MENTIRAS

So do you agree with my other points Lob?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
So do you agree with my other points Lob?

No, and here is why.

When Torqasm Vo done correctly...

NO CAN DEFEND !

Can Superman use it when not at full power?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Can Superman use it when not at full power?

It's not a Kryptonian power. It's more like a psionic equivalent to Chi techniques. Clark was teaching Lois it and she used it to create a mental link between them when he was in the Phantom Zone.

Thor stomp

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, I skimmed through the time Superman would black out and think he was Gangbuster. His mind has suppressed his powers to the point he didn't have them before. Here's some strength stuff, most of it pretty typical of Street Levelers.

Breaks down metal doors.

Tosses guys like ragdolls and casually holding them up with one hand.

Shatters doors and desks and breaks through a mystic sphere" that said to have held 6 men helpless in the past.

Throws a guard into a bunch of other guards then lifts the table and uses it to barricade the door.

After landing from a few stories into a garbage bin, breaks it. This was before Guardian found-out he's Superman, which led to Superman finding what he was doing.


So you're saying he still had powers, but just didn't realize he had them.. 😮