Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So you're saying he still had powers, but just didn't realize he had them.. 😮
His mind regulates his powers. Under Byrne he was powerless too because he had amnesia. During UP, UP AND AWAY he was powerless for a year after INFINITE CRISIS because he subconsciously wanted a normal life for a while.
From what I understand, he may mentally hold the expression of his powers but he still had kryptonian physiology, absorbing sunlight and whatnot.. his invulnerability and who knows what more may very well still played some role.
Unless you whant to afirm he totally changed his physiology, dna etc... good luck proving that.
Thor wins
Originally posted by Silent Master
They know Superman can't win a normal no-powers fight, so people are getting desperate for ways to give him an advantage.
Your hypocritical trolling post doesn't surprise me. Whine some more.
Originally posted by Squirtle
From what I understand, he may mentally hold the expression of his powers but he still had kryptonian physiology, absorbing sunlight and whatnot.. his invulnerability and who knows what more may very well still played some role.Unless you whant to afirm he totally [b]changed his physiology
, dna etc... good luck proving that.Thor wins [/B]
Survives the Firepits of Apokolips but is unconscious.
When unconscious, his hand is fine. But when he wakes up, it burns.
Originally posted by Delta1938I always thought that he originally lost his powers because of the massive red sun radiation he received during infinite crisis, and was slow to getting them back because of his subconscious..
His mind regulates his powers. Under Byrne he was powerless too because he had amnesia. During UP, UP AND AWAY he was powerless for a year after INFINITE CRISIS because he subconsciously wanted a normal life for a while.
Anyways I understand what you're saying, but its sort of a stretch that he was completely human level as Gangbuster. I mean in the end he never actually lost his power though it was obvious his mind was preventing the full use of his faculties.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I always thought that he originally lost his powers because of the massive red sun radiation he received during infinite crisis, and was slow to getting them back because of his subconscious..Anyways I understand what you're saying, but its sort of a stretch that he was completely human level as Gangbuster. I mean in the end he never actually lost his power though it was obvious his mind was preventing the full use of his faculties.
You're correct that he did lose them because of the end of INFINITE CRISIS. I guess I should've gone into more detail. He did not REGAIN his powers for a year, they even tested and saw his body wasn't absorbing solar energy, cells actually resisting it. It was late on he regained them bit by bit.
I showed above him being fine in the Firepits, and his hand being fine when he was unconscious, then burning when he woke-up with amnesia. He thought he was human, so he was physically human. When he was convinced by Darkseid that he was DS's son and gained power from DS, he regained his powers. Unless you think the stuff I showed is superhuman, from what I saw he looked to be at human(for comics) levels when he thought he was Gangbuster during his black-out spells. Hell, before he found-out he was Superman, he was fighting Guardian and hitting him with serious intent and not injuring Guardian.
Preboot Superman would push Thor's shit in here. Here he is beating Kobra in Batman's body AFTER Kobra ambushed him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman in kobra's body vs kobra in batman's body
And Kobra has beaten Batman himself in h2h.
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/Superman/kobrabeatingbats1.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/Superman/kobrabeatingbats2.jpg
That's far better than being Cap's sidekick.
😄
So yeah, he would beat the ever loving shit out of Thor. Post-flashpoint it would be even split if they are both human. Both are brawlers 99% of the time.
*cue snake-eyes lowballing both batman and superman*
Originally posted by abhilegend
Preboot Superman would push Thor's shit in here. Here he is beating Kobra in Batman's body AFTER Kobra ambushed him.And Kobra has beaten Batman himself in h2h.
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/Superman/kobrabeatingbats1.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/Superman/kobrabeatingbats2.jpgThat's far better than being Cap's sidekick.
😄
So yeah, he would beat the ever loving shit out of Thor. Post-flashpoint it would be even split if they are both human. Both are brawlers 99% of the time.
*cue snake-eyes lowballing both batman and superman*
While people do exaggerate superman's defenselessness. Clark being better then batman when he's human is silly and will need more then one showing to prove that
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I always thought that he originally lost his powers because of the massive red sun radiation he received during infinite crisis, and was slow to getting them back because of his subconscious..Anyways I understand what you're saying, but its sort of a stretch that he was completely human level as Gangbuster. I mean in the end he never actually lost his power though it was obvious his mind was preventing the full use of his faculties.
Originally posted by riv6672
Say what you want, this Silent Master guy has a point.
It was the Superfans that started posting how Supes was more than human, to try and justify a win here.
Reading the thread makes it pretty obvious; superfans can NOT concede a loss, under any circumstances.
er Thor fans kept going on about Thor's superhuman feats of strength while human. I took a look at stuff Supes did when powerless as Gangbuster when he thought he was Gangbuster. In an entertainment where Captain America throws his shield with enough force to outrun an ICBM already launched and Batman is kicking down doors that are supposed to withstand missile impacts or something like that, how is tossing guys like ragdolls and kicking through metal such an unacceptable thing?
