Nam-Ek and Ronan Vs Hulk and Thor

Started by Time Immemorial9 pages
Originally posted by NemeBro
It's weird how people try to debate the power of the World Engine when we see cars being flattened to pancakes and buildings destroyed when in the radius.

They do it based off people not being vaporized however they forget PG-13 rating, or they chose to be stupid.

Originally posted by Robtard
The kpytonian environment was all around the Word Engine. We hear him coughing and when on the ground, he was clearly straining and trying to gather strength before he flies up and into the machine.

I thought he was coughing when he was in the air, not when he was on the ground.

Don't think the Kryptonian environment was all around. Remember, there were humans on the ground not to far away from Clark, they would have died if that was the case. Proof this, Lois had to wear a mask so that she could breath in that environment.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I'm starting to think Carver did not watch the movie at all.

For the past 10 yrs, I have seen EVERY super hero movie that hhe come on tv. There's no way I would miss a Superman movie. That movie didn't come out last month, I'm not going to remember every scene in detail. Please don't make me post the entire movie in this thread just to prove I've seen it because I will do it.

Originally posted by carver9
I thought he was coughing when he was in the air, not when he was on the ground.

Don't think the Kryptonian environment was all around. Remember, there humans on the ground not to far away from Clark, they would have died if that was the case. Proof this, Lois had to wear a mask so that she could breath in that environment.

No carver, you are mistaken again.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No carver, you are mistaken again.

I feel like I'm right on that one.

Originally posted by carver9
I feel like I'm right on that one.

It obviously was not a closed environment like it was in space. Plot says he would be weakened. You can't pick and chose feats and make some applicable and disregard others. There were not other humans in the area and Lois has nothing to do with this scene other then bringing up the fact that he might be weakened being around a kryptonian envirmoment, the reason he was not fully weakened because it was as Zod said, he cannot do anything, whatever was happening to him had to run its coarse, obviously you notice when he woke up from being asleep on the ship he was not coughing up blood. That MEANS it had runs its coarse.

facepalm

Mental gymnastics 101

Originally posted by carver9
I thought he was coughing when he was in the air, not when he was on the ground.

Don't think the Kryptonian environment was all around. Remember, there humans on the ground not to far away from Clark, they would have died if that was the case. Proof this, Lois had to wear a mask so that she could breath in that environment.

Not sure if he coughed while on the ground, but he was clearly straining and appeared weak due to the environment, which the film made a point to point out that he would be weakened in that scene.

There were no humans around the World Engine. Considering the purpose of the World Engine was to completely terraform the Earth, I don't see why the Kryptonian environment would only be at a higher altitude, that makes no sense.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
facepalm

Mental gymnastics 101

We are breaking it down Barney style here for Carver.

there was a scene in thor the dark world where one of thor's hammer strikes against malekith set of a shock wave that broke the concrete around them and windows and shit. that's gotta be serious concussive force right? what do you guys think about that? hell it even seemed to do more damage than the little shockwaves the kryptonians were giving off. like more destructive. I feel he could dent their helmets with that type of hit. really bring it up to hear others take on that occurrence.

http://youtu.be/kpEDUvU3dI8?t=18s

Originally posted by wallman77
there was a scene in thor the dark world where one of thor's hammer strikes against malekith set of a shock wave that broke the concrete around them and windows and shit. that's gotta be serious concussive force right? what do you guys think about that? hell it even seemed to do more damage than the little shockwaves the kryptonians were giving off. like more destructive. I feel he could dent their helmets with that type of hit. really bring it up to hear others take on that occurrence.

http://youtu.be/kpEDUvU3dI8?t=18s

👆 Yeah. That scene was one of the highlights of the film for me. I wonder why most people ignore it. Fact he didn't really charge it much is also beast.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
👆 Yeah. That scene was one of the highlights of the film for me. I wonder why most people ignore it.

cuz it hurts their argument lol. but im almost certain ppl are about to lowball it anytime now.

You can count on it. It's how things work around here. Lowball the shit out of everything you dislike and dick ride what you like.

Some take it to the extreme though.

Originally posted by wallman77
there was a scene in thor the dark world where one of thor's hammer strikes against malekith set of a shock wave that broke the concrete around them and windows and shit. that's gotta be serious concussive force right? what do you guys think about that? hell it even seemed to do more damage than the little shockwaves the kryptonians were giving off. like more destructive. I feel he could dent their helmets with that type of hit. really bring it up to hear others take on that occurrence.

http://youtu.be/kpEDUvU3dI8?t=18s

He blocked it and sent Thor away. That hit doesn't really show anything but special effects.

regardless of whether he blocked it or not....the force of the hammer hitting the forearms gave off the boom. I could say the same thing from superman's blows. zod caught a punch and it still sent off a boom. was that special effects? lol plz. if one is then the other has to be aswell. and that boom was more destructive than the blows the kryptonians were giving off.

Originally posted by wallman77
regardless of whether he blocked it or not....the force of the hammer hitting the forearms gave off the boom. I could say the same thing from superman's blows. zod caught a punch and it still sent off a boom. was that special effects? lol plz. if one is then the other has to be aswell. and that boom was more destructive than the blows the kryptonians were giving off.

Superman and Zod were equal's, hence why they could trade blows equally.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
👆 Fact he didn't really charge it much is also beast.

yup. just a simple wind up

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Superman and Zod were equal's, hence why they could trade blows equally.

ur missing the point. or maybe im missing urs. the fact is...that hit gave off more destructive force than superman or zod did with their punches. but now all of a sudden its chalked up to "special effects". so the ground didn't really break up right? I mean its just a visual style right? I personally feel they are highly comparable. it showed punching power. plain and simple.

Originally posted by wallman77
ur missing the point. or maybe im missing urs. the fact is...that hit gave off more destructive force than superman or zod did with their punches. but now all of a sudden its chalked up to "special effects". so the ground didn't really break up right? I mean its just a visual style right? I personally feel they are highly comparable.

Since when is breaking glass a huge destructive force, in any movie? Its just shock value added to make the scene cool. They broke glass ok, Carver threw hissy fits about this because they did it in the matrix. Ok people they broke glass. And?

They didn't touch the glass to break it and the distance they are from the building and the shockwaves reaching so far makes it even more impressive.