Gremmy vs Kaguya Ootsutsuki

Originally posted by NewGuy01
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With that covered, I still hold to my previous synopsis; Kakashi may be stronger, but either way they should be pretty closely matched.

I'd assume their Susano'o are similarly powerful.

Kakashi has intangibility; Madara has regeneration, and likely superior Taijutsu (If we are to compare Obito's performance against Minato to Madara's against Tobirama.)

Kakashi has Kamui hax; Madara has Limbo, Energy absorption, Chibaku Tensei, and most importantly the Gedo Mazou's insane hax powers.

Idk, Madara seems pretty stacked to me. If Kakashi is stronger, it shouldn't be by all that much IMHO.

Yeah, my point isn't that Kakashi is STRONGER than Madara, it's that Madara can't hurt him because of intangibility. Plus, Kakashi's kamui with both mangekyo is faster than even Jyuubidara's Gudoudama, as we saw demonstrated by him doubling Obito's warp time by stacking their kamui's.

Yes, I also put their Susano'o's at the same level. I basically think that everyone's PS is the same level of strength, but the user's are completely different in terms of strength. Plus, the users can obviously use different abilities with their PS's. Like Sasuke can make Amaterasu blades for his, and now even use Rinnegan abilities like Planetary devastation while in PS, and Kakashi can use his Kamui abilities, and even make his PS separate from himself to fight on it's own. Madara basically just has the basic PS abilities, and his planetary devastation to summon meteors.

Originally posted by Zamiel
The combined chakra of around 50 normal shinobi can blow up the moon in The Last. Kaguya has the whole world's chakra...

Um... That was the chakra of close to a hundred jonin shinobi from all villages, Killer Bee(who has the 8 tails), Raikage(who has Biju level chakra), Tsunade(who has even more chakra than Raikage), and I believe also the Mizukage. Not to mention that it WAS a cannon, meaning it could have already had massive destructive power, without the chakra. Either way, that just makes the cannon moon busting. That doesn't make regular shinobi mountain busting.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
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With that covered, I still hold to my previous synopsis; Kakashi may be stronger, but either way they should be pretty closely matched.

I'd assume their Susano'o are similarly powerful.

Kakashi has intangibility; Madara has regeneration, and likely superior Taijutsu (If we are to compare Obito's performance against Minato to Madara's against Tobirama.)

Kakashi has Kamui hax; Madara has Limbo, Energy absorption, Chibaku Tensei, and most importantly the Gedo Mazou's insane hax powers.

Idk, Madara seems pretty stacked to me. If Kakashi is stronger, it shouldn't be by all that much IMHO.

Tbh, Kakashi's Susanoo blows Madara's out of the water because of its hax.

Which Madara are you using?

I was referring to pure physical stats.

Why were you comparing physical stats only when that's not all it can do?

Because I addressed the rest afterward. 😛

Gremmy has lost already been agreed.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Um... That was the chakra of close to a hundred jonin shinobi from all villages, Killer Bee(who has the 8 tails), Raikage(who has Biju level chakra), Tsunade(who has even more chakra than Raikage), and I believe also the Mizukage. Not to mention that it WAS a cannon, meaning it could have already had massive destructive power, without the chakra. Either way, that just makes the cannon moon busting. That doesn't make regular shinobi mountain busting.

It wasn't from all villages, just the Cloud village. A and Raikage didn't any chakra into the cannon. The cannon was using their chakra to moon bust. Without their chakra the cannon would have been a gun without bullets.

Watch the movie.

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?

Originally posted by Zamiel
It wasn't from all villages, just the Cloud village. A and Raikage didn't any chakra into the cannon. The cannon was using their chakra to moon bust. Without their chakra the cannon would have been a gun without bullets.

Watch the movie.

Then why did some of the ninja have leaf head bands?

A IS the Raikage, genius. And why do you think they had B fire it in the first place? His dumb ass would be the last person they'd trust with the fate of the world, if it wasn't SOLELY for his massive chakra, and the Biju inside of him.

I have watched the movie, and you clearly haven't seen that, or the rest of the series, for that matter, considering you think 50 chunnin can blow up the moon, when mountain busting was unheard of until the strongest ninja in history was revived to rofl-stomp the entire gokage like they were children. 👆

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Then why did some of the ninja have leaf head bands?

A IS the Raikage, genius. And why do you think they had B fire it in the first place? His dumb ass would be the last person they'd trust with the fate of the world, if it wasn't SOLELY for his massive chakra, and the Biju inside of him.

I have watched the movie, and you clearly haven't seen that, or the rest of the series, for that matter, considering you think 50 chunnin can blow up the moon, when mountain busting was unheard of until the strongest ninja in history was revived to rofl-stomp the entire gokage like they were children. 👆

They were not wearing Leaf headbands and they were Jonin.

http://imgur.com/3CFPPhT?desktop=1

Btw, it took them hours to reach that level.

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?

Gremmy specifically said there was a limit to his imagination.

Nothing was stated about his psyche having anything to do with it.

Anything you say beyond that, is pure fan-wank, idiocy, and lies.

Get back to your cave, troll.