Originally posted by DarthAnt66
[b]FULL PLOT AND THOUGHTS ON UPDATE 3.0
"So many centuries. The Emperor and his Dread Masters, trying to wrench me apart, to unleash my anger and hatred...."
--Revan (Star Wars: The Old Republic)To be honest, this expansion isn't about Revan... at all. Reading through the files completely, it's all about the Emperor. The entire plot of this is to introduce the Emperor as the primary threat for 3.1 to 4.0. Revan is really just the poster boy who introduces Vitiate so people will spend money and watch him do it because, let's be honest... more fans are buying an expansion with Revan's mask on it instead of Vitiate's. Like sure, Revan might play like a Satele Shan or Darth Marr role in 3.1 to 4.0, but he's not the focus. Not even in his own personal story is he the focus. In case you guys don't want to play the game, this is the plot: Revan's mental war with the Sith Emperor and the Dread Masters (in this new story, it says the Dread Masters additionally tried to break Revan... and failed. This is insane for Revan. Like... unparalleled throughout the mythos.) has left him mad with multiple personality disorder. According to Revan's dark-side (Darth Revan and before), Redeemed Revan was killed in the mental war with Vitiate, and Darth Revan was the one who participated in the battle of the Foundry. Accordingly, Darth Revan harnesses the strength while Redeemed Revan has the wisdom needed. Redeemed Revan admit's at the end of the Foundry he was ready to finally embrace death, yet his other side, Darth Revan, was still determined to defeat the Emperor. It was this moment that Redeemed Revan (KotOR and TOR:Revan Revan) died and became a spirit. Darth Revan carried the dead corpse of Revan to Dromaund Kaas where he made a deal with the current Revanites to expand their Order. After many months, the Order expanded to a galactic powerhouse with infiltrators reaching up to the ranks of the Dark Council. After their defeat on Rakata Prime, Revan planned a master strategy to turn both the Republic and Empire against each other in hope to eliminate Darth Marr and Satele Shan. The strategy was awed as a masterpiece, requiring the combination of the galaxy's 8 champions to prevent the chaos from ensuring. Revan then fled to Yavin 4, hoping to bring the Sith Emperor back. He planned this because he was under the belief he could kill the Sith Emperor in his most weakened form. The spirit of Redeemed Revan guided the 8 champions to Yavin 4 where they destroyed the Revanites and defeated Darth Revan. However, the Sith Emperor still managed to be resurrected, setting the stage to a war the galaxy never seen before. Darth Revan then reunited with Redeemed Revan, once again being whole. With both wisdom and power, balance and courage, Revan agreed to help the Empire and the Republic stop the Sith Emperor, but was still doubtful it was even possible. The End. [/B]
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
[b]Dark!Revan and Light!Revan Story and Dialogue
Quote from Dark!Revan that implies Dark!Revan is Darth Revan and before. Because of this, Light!Revan would be Redeemed Revan. Reborn Revan is the both extremes combined (TOR:Revan):
"The Emperor immersed me in the dark side. Darth Revan was the only other Jedi to come back from that. My memories of that time are power. That power is my right and my weapon. I claim it."
--Dark!Revan (Star Wars: The Old Republic)Light!Revan: "You've been so blinded by your unchecked rage, your thirst for vengeance, that you could not see the truth." />
Light!Revan: "Now that your power has subsided, I may finally confront you. I only hope you will listen." />
TOR Protag: "You're both Revan." />
Light!Revan: "Yes, though neither of us is truly Revan." />
TOR Protag: "What exactly is happening here?" />
Light!Revan: "When I died, I had come to terms. I was ready to become one with the Force. But I soon realized that was only what part of me wanted." />
Dark!Revan!: "I cast you out! It was the only way to go on--to remain and finish what we started! You were holding me back!" />
Light!Revan: "You think you're stronger this way, but you're not. Neither of us is. We're broken. We can't go on like this." />
Dark!Revan:"I won't stop. Not until I conjure the Emperor. I have to face him." />
Light!Revan: "So many centuries. The Emperor and his Dread Masters, trying to wrench me apart, to unleash my anger and hatred...." />
Light!Revan: "I detached myself from the pain. Focused on the Force." />
Dark!Revan: "You hid behind Jedi platitudes! You weren't strong enough to survive the torture, or the battle in the Foundry. I faced them! I survived them!" />
Light!Revan: "You've carried on, dragging the remains of a body that should have long since faded to dust." />
Light!Revan: "Hatred fueled cunning, but burned out all wisdom. Without me, you could not see." />
Light!Revan:"Strength is useless without wisdom to guide it." />
Light!Revan: "We need to repair what the Emperor has done." />
TOR Protag: "And without him, you died. He needs your wisdom, but you need his strength. His focus." />
Unknown ?: "Let me help you finish what we started." />
TOR Protag: That's why the Emperor tried so hard to split you up. Two pieces working separately aren't nearly as good as one whole, working together." />
Light!Revan: "Together, we can prevail." />
Revan Reborn: "I am whole again... but there is much to do. The Emperor has returned. Steel yourselves against what will come." /> [/B]
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Sidious>Everyone in TOR including Revan...so that's some seriously fallacious claims you're making there.
lol twas a joke my friendo
Originally posted by The_Tempest
90% sure they're just trolling.
90%? Tempest.. You wound me, i can't believe you thought there was a 10% chance i was serious. Oh my poor fragile heart 🙁
I'm starting to think that Legend may have been on to something when he said Bioware isn't constrained by canon any more. They're really pushing Vitiate as the most powerful thing ever. It's not as if they need to pay attention to Sidious' supposed top dog status anymore, or Nihilus etc.
Also no shit Revan can't defeat him. He stood nearly no chance before 300 years of steady improvement and progression. Swtor Vitiate would handle him easily.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm starting to think that Legend may have been on to something when he said Bioware isn't constrained by canon any more. They're really pushing Vitiate as the most powerful thing ever. It's not as if they need to pay attention to Sidious' supposed top dog status anymore, or Nihilus etc.
So legit, even I believe it.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vitiate would handle Hero easier then Revan.
Lolno.
I do find it amusing how Revan's entire life as been defined by being fvcked up the butt by Vitiate though. He starts the Mando Wars to break the Republic, leading to Revan's fall and enslavement by him after Vitiate stomps him and Malak and even after he fixes his own mistake he immediately goes off and gets pwned again and imprisoned for 300 years. And then Revan escapes only to immediately get pwned again. Meanwhile the REAL Champion of Light manages to kill Vitiate, only for Revan to fvck up once again and bring him back from the dead. Probably for the Hero of Tython to sort everything out again and save everyone from his sheer incompetence.
Truly, I don't think theres a story in all of star wars defined by abject failure as much as Revans. 🙂