The Old Republic: Revan Returns in Update 3.0 Information

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Pretty sure Krayt was dead. The dude got stabbed by a lightsaber, utterly spammed by lightning, thrown off a huge ass cliff, then attacked by lightning once again.
Though, Maul survived like Darth Sion did...through his hatred. That's not really Revan's type of thing, regardless of how crazy he is, given he disappeared in a flash of light.

Nope. When Krayt describes it to Talon it's clear he technically never died.

And when he's on his little speech, he says "I have been through death and conquered it. I have returned with my power multiplied." 😉
It seems like what happened to Revan is the same, because he apparently got stronger as well. Though I'm still not sure what technique he used.

Which is just Krayt being hyperbolic. Seems to be the same with Revan. But I guess we will have to see.

Revan has no reason to be hyperbolic here though. Why would he give a **** trying to impress some guys he's "going to kill" anyway. He even says he refuses to be "goaded into battle."

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Revan, in all respects and purposes, is the mascot of the Expanded Universe. No character created since 2003 was able to capture the levels of fame and awe that he did. It attracted people of all ages thanks to his awesome looks to the fantastic plot of Knights of the Old Republic itself. It was the [b]heroic story that even the darkest of people can still be redeemed. In terms of a strict plot story, they should have ended there. Of course I am thankful that with new material, he is depicted stronger then he would be without it, but Revan's character and legacy will far outlive this forum and its posts. Revan being corrupted by this new Sith Emperor lowers the importance and history of the Star Forge. Moving forward, they decided to turn Revan's story from something heroic to tragic. They put him in the worst novel in mankind, which depicts him as losing Meetra Surik, getting spammed by lightning, then being captured for 300 years. Star Wars plots, in my opinion, need to have a moral. The Star Wars move saga was tragic, but it ended as the main character did his epic sacrifice. What does Revan do in comparison? Decides to destroy everyone in this twisted plot in zombie form. Only the word irony can capture that the "champion of the Light" who destroyed the Star Forge to save the Republic now wants the Star Forge once again to destroy the damn Republic? Da faq?[/B]

That's what I thought when I heard about this.

Crazy megalomaniacs always talking in self-aggrandising hyperbole.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Revan has no reason to be hyperbolic here though. Why would he give a **** trying to impress some guys he's "going to kill" anyway. He even says he refuses to be "goaded into battle."

I dunno. He is crazy though... Anyway to the Republic players he says he was "only somewhat" dead. So it seems like he was never actually killed. But like I said we have to see where it goes from here.

Yeah. Krayt wasn't dead, and Revan probably wasn't either.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not really. Since most of the flashpoint is spent getting to the end, not starting there, it doesn't really mean that all are necessarily needed to defeat someone. It means that it took that many people to get there at best, and it was a safety net at worst. To actually lose however, would mean that all four+extras fought and still lost. Using your reasoning, if four people go beat up one guy, that one guy must have been in the same league as that entire group combined.

Lol considering 4 manning and ops is impossible, yeah I'm gonna go ahead and say no on your theory.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No. The Operations team based on the TOR website seems to be the combined might of the 4 main Empire characters, and the 4 main Republic characters. So you got: Tython, Barsen, Wrath, Nox, Champ, Niner, and the other 2.
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I'll type up my thoughts about this soon though.

Lol no. This blatantly contradicts the script of every mission where you are 'trying to get x before the Empire does'.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"Now both the Empire and the Republic call on their strongest champions to head to Denova and take the planet from the warlord and his army."

"Seeing Karagga’s actions as a threat, both the Galactic Republic and Sith Empire send representatives to confront Karagga and force him to stop his aggression."

"Both the Republic and the Empire understand the threat that the prison poses, and both sides now send their most powerful heroes to confront and eliminate this powerful foe once and for all."

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Lord Stark

Lol no. This blatantly contradicts the script of every mission where you are 'trying to get x before the Empire does'.

That's not the script for the Operations though. The official website overwrites your opinion.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's not the script for the Operations though. The official website overwrites your opinion.

Yes it is. Every cutscene is canon and not only is there no mention of a joint operation (which is retarded considering they are at war at the time of all the operations).
YouTube video

1:50

"We'll deal with the Eternity Vault, make sure the Empire doesn't follow."

That's before the mission even began. They probably both send the 4 groups, and once they landed, I guess they had to deal with it. We can't just ignore canon because it "messes with powerlevels." For the Eternity Vault:
"Buried deep in the icy mountains of Belsavis, a prison housing an ancient and deadly entity has been uncovered. Both the Republic and the Empire understand the threat that the prison poses, and both sides now send their most powerful heroes to confront and eliminate this powerful foe once and for all."

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's before the mission even began. They probably both send the 4 groups, and once they landed, I guess they had to deal with it. We can't just ignore canon because it "messes with powerlevels." For the Eternity Vault:
"Buried deep in the icy mountains of Belsavis, a prison housing an ancient and deadly entity has been uncovered. Both the Republic and the Empire understand the threat that the prison poses, and both sides now send their most powerful heroes to confront and eliminate this powerful foe once and for all."

Which directly contradicts the ****ing game. Its not even just about it messing with the powerlevels. Until there's an official stance on this I'm not taking it as canon.

There's also no official stance on who killed Darth Malgus. Just wait and stop making assumptions.

The official website is an "official stance" even if you like it or not. The quote you provided doesn't change or prove anything.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
There's also no official stance on who killed Darth Malgus.

That's a Flashpoint. 😐 We are discussing Operations.

I think this is a question for the developers and later material to decide guys. There's no real way of proving it one way or the other.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Lol considering 4 manning and ops is impossible, yeah I'm gonna go ahead and say no on your theory.

Lol no. This blatantly contradicts the script of every mission where you are 'trying to get x before the Empire does'.

4 manning an ops is impossible?

I've three manned DP SM...

I might get back into this game just for this Revan shit but it'd take a month or two to properly mod my character. Last op I did was nightmare mode Kephess.