The Old Republic: Revan Returns in Update 3.0 Information

Started by Lord Stark49 pages
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vague statements? They are pretty clear. Both factions send men to attack the enemy.

So show me the quote that says "The Jedi Knight, Consular, Smuggler, and Trooper, join with the Sith Warrior, Inquisitor, Agent, and Bounty Hunter to take down Soa.

"Elite Strike team" does not translate to "Every playable character"


Questionably canon sources? So the official website of the Old Republic is not canon? What the hell are you smoking?

Not when it directly contradicts the game.


This has nothing to do with Revan, but rather others like Soa or the Dread Masters. 😬 [/B]

So English is your second language then. Got it.

Not when it directly contradicts the game.

You have yet to provide anything that contradicts the game.
So show me the quote that says "The Jedi Knight, Consular, Smuggler, and Trooper, join with the Sith Warrior, Inquisitor, Agent, and Bounty Hunter to take down Soa.

Not even official sourcebooks are this blunt. It requires further research.
Flashpoints depict of Empire Strike Team characters as the following: "the Empire’s most elite warriors" and "its most powerful champions."
Flashpoints depict of Republic Strike Team characters as the following: "the Republic’s most elite warriors" and also "elite heroes."
They also get accolades that are, but not limited to, "their most powerful and experienced heroes" and "the most elite heroes in the galaxy."
It is not rocket-science that the same guys who did these missions also did the Operations. Just look at the Operation title: "both the Empire and the Republic call on their strongest champions."

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You have yet to provide anything that contradicts the game.

Aside from the fact that no joint operations are mentioned or possible and the fact that the Empire and the Republic are you know at war at this point.


Not even official sourcebooks are this blunt. It requires further research.
Flashpoints depict of Empire Strike Team characters as the following: "the Empire’s most elite warriors" and "its most powerful champions."
Flashpoints depict of Republic Strike Team characters as the following: "the Republic’s most elite warriors" and also "elite heroes."
They also get accolades that are, but not limited to, "their most powerful and experienced heroes" and "the most elite heroes in the galaxy."
It is not rocket-science that the same guys who did these missions also did the Operations. Just look at the Operation title: "both the Empire and the Republic call on their strongest champions."

Which fits only because there are indeed 4 characters to fill the slots on each side. Also the sourcebooks call the strike team sent to arrest the Emperor a strike team of "the order's strongest" and it didn't include the Barsen'thor. So no, that doesn't mean the strike team is objectively made up of the main characters.

Yes they are in war, but that doesn't change much. TOR site acknowledges that both know this faction is a threat to them both.
The only possible people who could have been in the Operations though are the 8 Playable characters though. That's the entire point.
However, I see we reached a dead end. You won't take TOR site/logic into account, and in return I won't take in your efforts to try to say they are not canon.

So is revan truly beyond light and dark now? Is he in a class/alignment of his own now?

Originally posted by Board Walker
So is revan truly beyond light and dark now? Is he in a class/alignment of his own now?

Well he isnt beyond it. He embraced both sides before and was balance aligned which is closer to the light side to be honest. Now it seems he will return chaos aligned which is basically the negative of balance.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Yes they are in war, but that doesn't change much. TOR site acknowledges that both know this faction is a [b]threat to them both.
The only possible people who could have been in the Operations though are the 8 Playable characters though. That's the entire point.
However, I see we reached a dead end. You won't take TOR site/logic into account, and in return I won't take in your efforts to try to say they are not canon. [/B]

How are the only possible people who could have been in the Operation are the 8 playable characters? Not everything was meant to be taken with 100% respect to canon events. What's next? Are you going to start sifting through the PVP cutscenes for feats you can use? Also I like how you didn't even address the point of other people being called "the strongest group".
"You're with the best strike team in the galaxy. For us, nothing is impossible."
There are also numerous DB statements about the team being the same. Point being these terms aren't used to exclusively describe the main characters.

Revan was like the Father.

Now he's like Abeloth. C:<

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Revan was like the Father.

Now he's like Abeloth. C:<

I don't like this new Revan... 🙁

Originally posted by Nalaniel
I don't like this new Revan... 🙁

Neither do I 🙁

Originally posted by Lord Stark
How are the only possible people who could have been in the Operation are the 8 playable characters? Not everything was meant to be taken with 100% respect to canon events. What's next? Are you going to start sifting through the PVP cutscenes for feats you can use? Also I like how you didn't even address the point of other people being called "the strongest group".
"You're with the best strike team in the galaxy. For us, nothing is impossible."
There are also numerous DB statements about the team being the same. Point being these terms aren't used to exclusively describe the main characters.

I thought you were trolling actually about the group, hence why I didn't respond. The group refers to a Jedi Strike Team during the Story quest of the game. It wouldn't have even covered 2 of the 4 classes. 😬
In the game, only those 8 people can do the Operation. Darth Malgus or a Jedi Master doesn't fight in them. You don't have random guys helping you out. Only the playable classes have that honor available.
It is only logical to assume the same guys who did Mission A also did Mission B, because in the game (cutscenes included), that's what happens. I understand your argument now though, but I hope you understand mine as well.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I thought you were trolling actually about the group, hence why I didn't respond. The group refers to a [b]Jedi Strike Team during the Story quest of the game. It wouldn't have even covered 2 of the 4 classes. 😬
In the game, only those 8 people can do the Operation. Darth Malgus or a Jedi Master doesn't fight in them. You don't have random guys helping you out. Only the playable classes have that honor available.
It is only logical to assume the same guys who did Mission A also did Mission B, because in the game (cutscenes included), that's what happens. I understand your argument now though, but I hope you understand mine as well. [/B]

I understand your points, I just think that until we get a canon recounting of this (which likely won't happen for years) we shouldn't assume anything. I highly doubt for example that a single Dread Master would be able to hold back the HoT, Barsen'thor alone let alone if you threw in Nox and the Wrath.

Well then hopefully we get a canon recounting soon. 🙂

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Revan was like the Father.

Now he's like Abeloth. C:<

Oh god, I don't think Revans on that tier of awfulness.

Thanks to my request, they released a Republic audio version (other one was Empire):
watch?v=hnLpp827EQ4
"The Emperor couldn't break me. Even death could not stop me. I will finish what I've started. And you will not interfere again."

Lol. If they only make Revan's power levels canon..

You getting wood, Beefy?

Getting? I already have wood.

a lot of these topics can take very weird turns given enough time.

All things considered, Revan will never be as powerful as the Ones, but anything else is a possibility.