Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't see how Superman and Zod have an advantage in speed. Neo and Smith are fast enough to dodge multiple gun fire without even moving their feet. Superman had to run to get out of the line of fire.
Neo didn't dodge shit, he was hit multiple times. Superman completely dodged anti tank, aircraft fire.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Neo and Smith clashing created a sonic boom that shattered every window of the city they were fighting in.In terms of striking strength I don't think Superman or Zod have shown feats that good.
That wasn't even the best clash in that film. The punch Smith hit Neo with, the shockwaves engulfed the entire city.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Neo didn't dodge shit, he was hit multiple times. Superman completely dodged anti tank, aircraft fire.
That was neo in the first film before he was badass. If you recall later he stops the bullets in mid air and lets them fall to the ground. We see Agents dodging semi automatics with ease and for those of you with a brain it is safe to assume that Neo was well beyond the power of Agents in Reloaded as you seem him wreck an army of Smiths on basic Agent Level. And then Neo and Oracle Smith are about the same strength in the third film. By that time I'm sure they could dodge some seriously fast and powerful gunfire. Even heat vision by my prediction.
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
That was neo in the first film before he was badass. If you recall later he stops the bullets in mid air and lets them fall to the ground. We see Agents dodging semi automatics with ease and for those of you with a brain it is safe to assume that Neo was well beyond the power of Agents in Reloaded as you seem him wreck an army of Smiths on basic Agent Level. And then Neo and Oracle Smith are about the same strength in the third film. By that time I'm sure they could dodge some seriously fast and powerful gunfire. Even heat vision by my prediction.
True but stips say TK is turned off, a Neo has one attempted bullet dodge and failed. Froth said he dodged the bullets from a handgun, when in fact he didn't dodge them all, he was hit twice.
Mos dodged a superior weapon completely, a anti tank aircraft gun Later on the same type of gun used by Neo in the helicopter on the agents when rescuing Morph, the agents could not dodge those, Superman didn't even try, he just kept fighting like they were nothing.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I take it back, Neo and Smith stomps. Please re-look at these fights.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KlS4jTLIvt4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_UDLY7foTe4Neo and Smith holds EVERY advantage. The strength of their punches was more impressive. Look at the second vid and look at the punch he hit Neo with and the Shockwave it created. Neo was still awake after this. Not only that, look at the crater he created (along with buildings being destroyed) when slamming Neo into the ground and Neo was still awake. Hell of a durability ft as well.
If we base this off of durability, punching power, speed, and fighting skills, I think Neo and Smith have the advantage in all categories.
@Nemebro...
Lol...I thought you were talking about the hit on the second clip in the beginning. That was a glass shattering hit as well. Also, look at that slam he did on Neo, it destroyed 3 building and created a humongous crater.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Carver just stop for real with this foolishness, do you want us to really believe you are this foolish. Cmon bro. I know you are trolling.
Honestly, you don't have a single showing from Supes that puts him above or on these two levels tbh. Nothing. I know you like Superman but he doesn't win everything.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
True but stips say TK is turned off, a Neo has one attempted bullet dodge and failed. Froth said he dodged the bullets from a handgun, when in fact he didn't dodge them all, he was hit twice.Mos dodged a superior weapon completely, a anti tank aircraft gun Later on the same type of gun used by Neo in the helicopter on the agents when rescuing Morph, the agents could not dodge those, Superman didn't even try, he just kept fighting like they were nothing.
Indeed I see your point. But Badass Neo and Oracle Smith (if we are using their top feats) are far above normal Agents. I'm not saying they can dodge just because they are better than people who can't, but I'm just saying don't rule it out completely.
However I still haven't got a clue who is stronger because Matrix strength seem to vary among Neo and company. Superman probably flogs in that area just from consistent strength.
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Indeed I see your point. But Badass Neo and Oracle Smith (if we are using their top feats) are far above normal Agents. I'm not saying they can dodge just because they are better than people who can't, but I'm just saying don't rule it out completely.However I still haven't got a clue who is stronger because Matrix strength seem to vary among Neo and company. Superman probably flogs in that area just from consistent strength.
I don't even care about the bullet dodge, I was just calling out froth for blatantly lying and misrepresenting both characters feats. If anything it shows how smart MoS for knowing when to dodge, and when he really could care less🙂
Originally posted by FrothByte
Neo and the agents also dodged gunfire from a much closer range than Superman dodged that jet's gunfire. Plus, again I stress this: Neo and the agents dodge gunfire without moving their feet. Superman ran away to dodge gunfire.
Who cares, he dodge them. Neo didn't. Goes to show how smart MoS is in knowing his abilities vs Neo.