Originally posted by Selenial
Even so, it's canon 😛
I think when one of the top and most knowledgeable creators of Official Canon, one who has discussed it all with Lucas on a daily basis for the last 10 years, gives us an idea of the power levels then it's probably not far off from the truth.
Filoni said ANY member of the council would beat Luke. I'm not even going to that extreme, as I said he will take Cloeman and Adi. But then saying ROTJ Luke could beat anyone on the Council except Yoda, Mace and Obi-Wan, is clearly another extreme completely ignoring and contradicting the statements of one of the big creators of official canon in the PT and OT era.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Well Vader is more or less equal to Mace. and i did say Luke would have to be in rage mode to clear. though Vaapad might be a factor if he goes into rage..
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Filoni just said he had the notion that any councilor would beat Luke...that doesn't sound like an official declaration to me.
Yeah but he also makes it pretty clear Luke was never going to defeat Vader or Sidious in Lightsaber Combat. That wasn't just a notion.
Like I said I find it pretty difficult to believe that such a big creator of Official Canon in both the PT and OT era, who spoke to Lucas on a daily basis for the last 8 years on everything Star Wars, could be THAT Wrong.
Besides I can't see any way or reason for putting ROTJ Luke above TPM Kenobi. That's the highest level I could put him on personally, which may be good enough to take some Council Members, but certainly not the vast majority of them.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
You'd be hilariously wrong. That's Pre-ESB.
What? No. It was a comic based right after ROTJ. Will have to check the comic's name on the weekend.
Anyway since you accused me of being "hilariously wrong" your welcome to give what you think ROTJ Luke's best TK feats are. And it should be much better than holding up the AT-ST considering I was "hilariously wrong."
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
TPM Kenobi isn't as skilled with sabers either.
Pretty doubtful. He has years more experience than Luke, being trained the whole time under a Jedi Master. And unlike Luke he wasn't only Half trained. And he went toe to toe with a Sith Lord who wasn't holding back.
He's levitated himself, another person, as well as an airspeeder simultaneously shortly after RotJ. He also halted a freighter mid-crash, though I've heard that there are more details to how he accomplished this. He also has a statement saying he's as powerful as Vader. Also, as a Telepath, he's probed the minds of enemy ship pilots and forced them to fire on their allies from a great distance, which in itself is a great TP showing. He's also expanded his senses to the size of an entire asteroid field, detecting everything within its borders.
Him supporting an At-St for a couple seconds is hardly the pinnacle of his force achievements.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Pretty doubtful. He has years more experience than Luke, being trained the whole time under a Jedi Master. And unlike Luke he wasn't only Half trained. And he went toe to toe with a Sith Lord who wasn't holding back.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
All right, show me where TPM Kenobi cut down TIE Fighters and I'll agree with you.
What the heck is cutting down tie fighters got to do with anything.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Experience means shit when dealing with special snowflakes.
And what speciality has Luke shown in Saber combat?
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And considering the Maul ignored Kenobi for literally the entire time until he went rage mode, in which he was still defeated quickly, I don't get your point in bringing that up.
Because it's a feat for Kenobi. Against a Sith Lord who wasn't his Daddy and not holding back at all.