Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I'm not gonna sit on a dick
mmm
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
and say that Sheev isn't badass.
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When TCW's season 5 trailer went live, live audiences and the internet went ballistic for Sidious. By comparison, all Colonel SandersValkoriate elicits are groans and facepalms. excellent
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But Valkorion's shiny armor and beard is comparable if not outright superior.
Perhaps when he moonlights as the Dos Equis man.
Quote function doesn't work, but given the amount of straw grasping in it, you know it was you that said it.
Sounds like somebody should brush up on his EU alongside his Hooked-On-Phonics.Just type 'Sith' in the search menu and do some reading. Now I know you struggle with that particular word, among others, so please feel free to PM me with any questions you might have.
Reading out loud might help you grasp the content better, too.
teach·ing
ˈtēCHiNG/
noun
noun: teaching; plural noun: teachings1.
the occupation, profession, or work of a teacher.
2.
ideas or principles taught by an authority.
"the teachings of the Koran"I realize this is probably intimidating for you and I certainly don't want to startle you further by posting the definitions for each and every constituent word, but suffice it to say that the practice of cultivating legions of Sith Lords is indeed an "idea" that endured through countless regimes and iterations of that culture, and is therefore indeed a teaching.
One would think that as much time as you spent on 'context', you'd be a bit better at recognizing it. thumb up
Sure it does. It conveys my good humor and amusement. Why are you so angry, my son?
One who cares absolutely zilch for its teachings and precepts, but uses it as a means to an end. Kinda like Valkorion and his allegiance to the Sith.
Kinda like Valkorion is acknowledged as Sith by codex and character.
Dude, I've got the codex, I've got precedent, and the benefit of reading comprehension. You have vague appeals to OMG context!!!1!, a pubescent mood swing a mile wide, and a generally tenuous grasp of reality.
My favorite part is when you came out of the gate with your try-too-hard piss and vinegar routine only to complain about ad hominems a few posts later when I return fire.
To borrow a phrase, if you can't stand the heat, don't walk in the kitchen.
BTW, you misused the phrase ad hominem, which isn't a blanket synonym for insult. You can brush up on the difference here, after your crash-course in Sith EU and, of course, HOP.In the meantime, I'd also recommend the use of some meditative ritual pronto, so you don't burst a blood vessel.
FS
Quote function doesn't work, but given the amount of straw grasping in it, you know it was you that said it.
Yeah, the quote function has been a bit finicky as of late.
FS
And now, you're just wasting my time, not that you weren't before.
And yet you feel compelled to respond. That might owe to the fact that you're obviously angry.
FS
There is no Sith teaching that says, "We must be Legion and numerous." The fact that there were a lot of them had nothing to do with it being set in stone that their should be.
Not being a dumbass might help you grasp the content better, too, although given all the grasping in your entire argument, I don't quite understand why this is the one thing you can't.
I, being consummately diligent, provided you the relevant definitions. The ancient Sith practiced the cultivation of legions of followers. It was a tradition that they employed throughout the ages. No one claimed that it was set in stone. Teachings often aren't and can be changed. 👆
FS
There were never "legions of Sith Lords."
You didn't use that thing called Wookieepedia I linked you to, did you?
FS
There was no "idea" that there ever should be either. Even then, there is no Sith idea that demands there be thousands of Sith, Lord or otherwise. That's like saying the Jedi code demands there be thousands of Jedi.
I never claimed the Sith code demanded legions of Sith.
FS
Not that you don't know this, you are, once again, grasping because the only thing making your position secure is the idea that Valkorion is must be a Sith through and through, otherwise he's a threat to Sidious' supremacy.
Your bitterness on all things Sheev is quite distressing, my child.
FS
I'm not angry with you. I'm mostly angry with myself for continuing to respond to this dribble. You maybe able to anger the others here, but I've dealt with far better in that regard, and you don't even come close. You'll have to find something else to get off on, if you thought breaking me was an option.
This seems like the textbook response of someone who is quite angry. You say I'm wasting your time and yet you feel compelled to respond regardless. You also admit to being "mostly" angry at yourself for doing so.
It seems to me that something about me incites you to defy your instincts and respond.
Spoiler:
Remember talking about psychological holds, the other day?
FS
Which is something you mad up, because there is no evidence at all that Nihilus cares "zilch" for Sith teachings.
FS
Not that it matters, because his opinion on them is irrelevant.
Ah. So Valk's opinion is relevant, but Nihilus's isn't. Good to know. You've adopted the obligatory SWTOR practice of double standards quite adroitly! 👆
FS
He still follows them.
Does he?
FS
Kina unlike Valkorion in anyway, especially considering not only does he have no allegiance to the Sith, he doesn't even follow their practices.
Sounds a lot like Nihilus.
FS
Kind of like how you're an idiot. "Sith Emperor" is his name, and as I've said three times now, unless you're also trying to argue he is still their emperor, which he is not, you have absolutely no point here.
That doesn't make sense: I'm saying Valkorion is acknowledged as Sith by the codex, you say it's kind of like how I'm an idiot, and that Valk really isn't a Sith.
Wouldn't that logic make me not an idiot? mmm
You should insult people when you're calmer.
FS
"I'm bitching, I have nothing, and instead of arguing anything to prove Palpatine's superiority, Imma try to be as annoying as possible, because a sense of smug superiority is all I have left as this point."
An odd response from someone complaining about insubstantial responses. 😂
FS
Yes. It wasn't you that started trying to fling shit because and insult my capacity to read of all things. For instance, I never said you couldn't. I gave you the benefit of the doubt to say you didn't. That's obviously changed though. At this point I'm convinced you've gone insane, and the only thing between you and the barrel of a gun is Sidious being Lord Supreme. It's the only way I can conceive of to justify so much idiocy, straw grasping, and dodging, asseholery, and blatant disregard of the obvious for a fictional universe.
Such vitriol, such anger. You came out the gate with your standard piss-and-vinegar show. For someone who initiates a lot of snark, you're remarkably thin-skinned and temperamental. 😬
It's quite unbecoming tbh.
FS
Yeah I know that actually reading something isn't your thing,
Kinda lame that you try to appropriate my insults in lieu of your own. mmm
FS
but what you're doing would be ad hominem, as the definition of that in the link you just posted: "One must make the insult as a PREMISE of the argument, rather than as part of the CONCLUSION." And you spent the better part of three hours trying to insult my reading comprehension followed by: "And he's a Sith, and you know this if you could read." You implying that most of this is directed towards the stance that Valkorion is a Sith is hilarious, though, because I come up a lot more in any response about the subject. Then again, this does help you avoid the fact that you have nothing to support yourself with but a facade and gif spam.
Nah, the overarching theme of my insults have been: "Valkorion is Sith because he's referred to as such by credible sources in a straightforward manner, and if you can't get that, you can't read." That's an insult helixed with an argument.
An ad hominem would be: "You're illiterate, therefore your argument is invalid."
Pretty simple distinction that the article makes. Not to keep hitting an obviously sore subject for you, but did you actually... read it?
The Sith code doesn't demand legions of Sith? Of course not, Bane was still a Sith despite his differing ideology from Kaan. As is Valkorion. The Sith code doesn't really demand much, friend.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength, power. Through power, victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The force shall set me free.
Tempest: Someone's saying something to me? They must be furious! Mwhaha my ninja vicegrip on this forum is complete!
Originally posted by Nephthys
Tempest: Someone's saying something to me? They must be furious! Mwhaha my ninja vicegrip on this forum is complete!
Originally posted by Nephthys
I know it does. Clearly you enjoy the accuracy of being compared with a senile, delusional old man with Alzheimer's, futilely obsessed with getting with the prettiest person alive, playing gradeschool mindgames and convinced he's being smart.
He's a charming old fellow.
BTW, I thought we were being nice to each other.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'm off for the night, but you should know the erotic value of the outrage and hostility you all displayed for me tonight is pretty damn significant.I won't forget it. 👆
I always suspected Temp took some bizarre sexual pleasure in thinking he makes other people mad, but this kinda confirms it.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Here are the circumstances so your comprehension can keep up:>Meetra Surik is hindered by a Dark Side Nexus.
>Darth Nyriss is amped by said Dark Side Nexus.
>Darth Nyriss attacks Meetra Surik with Force Lightning.
>Said Force Lightning instantly ashed two armoured guards in a short burst.
>Meetra Surik unprepared hastily throws up a basic barrier successfully absorbing the 'worst' of said attack and falls over.Now imagine this:
>Meetra Surik is not hindered.
>Darth Nyriss is not amped.
>Darth Nyriss attacks with Force Lightning.
>Meetra Surik uses Tutaminis to absorb the attack.Pretty simple logic isn't it?
And as far as Sidious and Valkorion goes, while I agree that Sheev>Valkorion, and am not convinced Valkorion is not a Sith anymore, it would still be nice to see an argument for Sheev that is more than the most powerful Sith accolades we've all seen hundreds of times. I'm not saying such an argument can't be effectively made, just that a more in depth analysis of Sheev would be more interesting and convincing than something we've all seen too many times to count.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
WTF?!I always suspected Temp took some bizarre sexual pleasure in thinking he makes other people mad, but this kinda confirms it.
I tell you all the time the anger arouses me.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
And as far as Sidious and Valkorion goes, while I agree that Sheev>Valkorion, and am not convinced Valkorion is not a Sith anymore, it would still be nice to see an argument for Sheev that is more than the most powerful Sith accolades we've all seen hundreds of times. I'm not saying such an argument can't be effectively made, just that a more in depth analysis of Sheev would be more interesting and convincing than something we've all seen too many times to count.
It's a trump card, bro. No reason not to use it. What you and Freshest are asking is tantamount to: "We want evidence of Sheev's superiority with the exception of certain evidence we don't like or find cheap."
Doesn't make much sense to me, quite frankly.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I tell you all the time the anger arouses me.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
It's a trump card, bro. No reason not to use it. What you and Freshest are asking is tantamount to: "We want evidence of Sheev's superiority with the exception of certain evidence we don't like or find cheap."Doesn't make much sense to me, quite frankly.
I'm just saying I'd find a more in depth comparison of abilities far more interesting, which is something I can't recall seeing specifically because those accolades. It quite frankly doesn't make sense to me why you wouldn't accentuate the accolades that some people don't take seriously with other demonstrations of Sheev's superiority to cover that superiority with multiple angles. Who knows, you may actually sway people who aren't convinced by the accolades with more in depth arguments like that as well as addressing specifically in what ways Sheev is superior to Valkorion rather just than that he is superior, which is more than you're accomplishing by arguing whether or not Valkorion is a Sith and calling people mad for several pages.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Thank you for bringing that .gif to my attention. I am commandeering it in the name of the Emperor.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm not saying it's invalid, and I even have Sheev>Valkorion.I'm just saying I'd find a more in depth comparison of abilities far more interesting, which is something I can't recall seeing specifically because those accolades. It quite frankly doesn't make sense to me why you wouldn't accentuate the accolades that some people don't take seriously with other demonstrations of Sheev's superiority to cover that superiority with multiple angles. Who knows, you may actually sway people who aren't convinced by the accolades with more in depth arguments like that as well as addressing specifically in what ways Sheev is superior to Valkorion rather just than that he is superior, which is more than you're accomplishing by arguing whether or not Valkorion is a Sith and calling people mad for several pages.
Dude, everybody is aware of the "multiple angles" of Sheev's supremacy at this point. I venture to say no other single character has been discussed as much in the history of the SWVF.
For the most part, I'd say everyone has their preferences and aren't in the business of changing their minds. People stand where they stand. A lot of hard feelings on the subject probably haven't helped, either.
Now some people are still invigorated enough to engage in WOT arguments or analytical discussions a la the defunct-Project Holocron and that's great. But it seems to me that it's more or less an exercise in futility.