Originally posted by carver9
He had the gems so it really doesn't matter. He had limitless power per his own admission which means he was still feeding off of the gem powers. All of his physical attributes were enhanced. He just didn't allow the gem to AID in his perception of things but that doesn't mean that the senses he already had wasn't amped as well since he was getting power from the gems. What is so hard to comprehend?
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Originally posted by Philosophía
Does not compute with:He had the Power Gem. Any feats he does is while still in possession of that infinite power - so none of them are his own.
Sit down.
I need only cut myself off from the sensory of the time, space, etc. Save the power gem. The power gem doesn't amp your amplify your battle skills and perceptions.
If you need help understanding the words being used in the scan I am here.
I will myself back to full power.
Originally posted by quanchi112Thanos cut off omniscience to give the heroes a chance and not know their every next move. He still retained unlimited power.
I need only cut myself off from the sensory of the time, space, etc. Save the power gem. The power gem doesn't amp your amplify your battle skills and perceptions.
"I would retain limitless power, yet not know my enemy's next move."
Only you would be dumb enough to say that Thanos doing something while possessing unlimited power is interchangeable with him doing it at normal powerlevel.
Moron.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaHere it is again since you aren't understanding the easy to understand words in the comic.
Thanos cut off omniscience to give the heroes a chance and not know their every next move. He still retained unlimited power."I would retain limitless power, yet not know my enemy's next move."
Only you would be dumb enough to say that Thanos doing something while possessing unlimited power is interchangeable with him doing it at normal powerlevel.
Moron.
His power isn't what I am referencing but his reflexes. That was not amped. Just because I amp my strength that doesn't mean I know have bullet time perceptions. You need to understand the difference.
Your insults are ironic.
I guess by Phil's standards power equals reflexes despite the comic being blatantly clear that isn't the case.
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Originally posted by quanchi112When the character is explicitly stated to be omnipotent [but not omniscient], 'but has he increased his reflexes?' doesn't really factor into the minds of people with IQ of over 60. You're confirming the rule, here.
His power isn't what I am referencing but his reflexes. That was not amped.
Thanos was doing things to himself like growing giant, here:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-13_zps487b04f2.jpg
...not to mention physically shattering Captain America's shield with a single strike. No-selling high-heralds en-masse while laughing.
He was most certainly not his normal physical self - and contrary to what you believe, 'reflexes' aren't some abstract concept - they're strictly related to physical attributes.
Try as you might, you'll be laughed away everytime you will want to bring Thanos's feat while being omnipotent being valid for his normal powerlevel.
I mean, that's just reaching a new low, even for you.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaThanos was able to do those things because he retained limitless power but was cut off from the sensory input aka fighting the battle with limitless power under his own battle skills and reflexes.
When the character is explicitly stated to be omnipotent [but not omniscient], 'but has he increased his reflexes?' doesn't really factor into the minds of people with IQ of over 60. You're confirming the rule, here.Thanos was doing things to himself like growing giant, here:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-13_zps487b04f2.jpg
...not to mention physically shattering Captain America's shield with a single strike. No-selling high-heralds en-masse while laughing.
He was most certainly not his normal physical self - and contrary to what you believe, 'reflexes' aren't some abstract concept - they're strictly related to physical attributes.
Try as you might, you'll be laughed away everytime you will want to bring Thanos's feat while being omnipotent being valid for his normal powerlevel.
I mean, that's just reaching a new low, even for you.
The scans more than illustrate this very to easy understand concept. He was unable to see his opponents next move as he turned off the sensory input so the power feats are not his alone. The reflexes and perceptions were Thanos'. The scans make this very clear.
What aren't you comprehending ? Pm me as you seem to be really struggling here.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Zum had around lightspeed reactions, if we give White Martians equal power levels (like we give average Kryptonians power levels). He may even be faster, given that he was chosen to be the team's speedster.Wally said he could hit such a speedster a thousand times before he could even blink.
I don't buy the Infinite Mass Punch. If Wally really were subject to relativistic mass dilation, his body would tear inself apart long before he ever reached lightspeed. Furthermore if he were subject to relativistic affects, were he to attempt a speedblitz at greater than 90% lightspeed Wally would be the one who couldn't react fast enough. At .9c 2.3 seconds pass for the body at "rest" for every one second for the Flash. At .9999c 70.1 seconds pass to the oberver at rest for every one second that passes in the Flash's frame of reference. This would introduce all kinds of problems, not the least of which is getting-smashed-by/left-behind-by the planet Earth as it moves through its orbital curve.
The Speed Force is essentially magic. It lets him move outside the rules of spacetime physiscs, but according to some other (poorly defined) rules of its own. While it pays some lip-service to Relativity, it shields DC speedsters from any of it's actual effects. Furthurmore, it protects them from things like the impact on their joints, heat from friction, flying off the planet when they exceed escape velocity, having their faces rubbed off by their bow-wave while their GI tracks are sucked out their rear by their backdraft, and so on.
When he punches someone at superspeed, he's not hitting with the momentum of a human body at high velocity. It's essentially a speedforce force-bolt coincident with his hand. When he runs, he's certainly not propelling himself by pushing against the ground.
Originally posted by Laminator_X
I don't buy the Infinite Mass Punch. If Wally really were subject to relativistic mass dilation, his body would tear inself apart long before he ever reached lightspeed. Furthermore if he were subject to relativistic affects, were he to attempt a speedblitz at greater than 90% lightspeed Wally would be the one who couldn't react fast enough. At .9c 2.3 seconds pass for the body at "rest" for every one second for the Flash. At .9999c 70.1 seconds pass to the oberver at rest for every one second that passes in the Flash's frame of reference. This would introduce all kinds of problems, not the least of which is getting-smashed-by/left-behind-by the planet Earth as it moves through its orbital curve.The Speed Force is essentially magic. It lets him move outside the rules of spacetime physiscs, but according to some other (poorly defined) rules of its own. While it pays some lip-service to Relativity, it shields DC speedsters from any of it's actual effects. Furthurmore, it protects them from things like the impact on their joints, heat from friction, flying off the planet when they exceed escape velocity, having their faces rubbed off by their bow-wave while their GI tracks are sucked out their rear by their backdraft, and so on.
When he punches someone at superspeed, he's not hitting with the momentum of a human body at high velocity. It's essentially a speedforce force-bolt coincident with his hand. When he runs, he's certainly not propelling himself by pushing against the ground.
Of course its magic. DC messed up when they created it, because it gets broken very very quickly.
And no he doesn't run like that. Otherwise he couldn't run in space etc.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's kinetic energy, not cosmic energy and yes it will work.Flash can hit harder than Superman if he wanted to. Ever heard of the IMP? So how come Flash can't hurt him?
Energy is still energy. If you can't manipulate Thanos's energy, than that would go for his kinetic energy as well. Not that he needs it to beat Flash.
And yeah Flash can hit harder than Superman....has nothing to do with even making Thanos itch. Thanos could literally have breakfast and watch a marathon as Supes and Flash wail on him all day. They can't hurt him.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Lol at Flash hitting harder than Superman.That is all.
I see your "LOL" and raise you a
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But yeah, I agree it's pretty damn funny. Then again, practically any thread involving Zoom or Flash always gives me some good laughs. Especially when people match them up against characters like Thanos or Superman. LOL.
