LOL. An infinite number won't be enough for someone like Zoom to KO Superman. He just doesn't have the tools to put Kal down long enough for a win. All he can ever really be is a nuisance (like an insect) to Superman. Never an actual threat.
Abhilegend has a point. Who has Zoom EVER actually beaten on Superman's level? Is WW the closest one to Supe's level that he's beaten (by tying her up with her own lasso)?
Originally posted by abhilegend
More like actual comics as reference instead of make believe power levels of Zoom. For all his hype, he has never beaten a single top tier straight up. Dude can't even KO Power Girl with a million punches, how would he KO Superman?
Very few villains will ever rack up 'wins' in that sense, it's not an argument against or for his abilities.
If he can hit Diana miles and miles then he can hit hard enough to hurt Superman.
His losses are mostly people catching him off guard, for all the sense that makes, bullshit which went against Johns' creation and why he removed him in Final Crisis.
There's no limit to how many times he could hit Superman. A million doesn't matter. He can hurt him, he'll win. Superman wouldn't have the chance to do anything anyways, he'd be a statue.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Total number of wins doesn't mean anything.Very few villains will ever rack up 'wins' in that sense, it's not an argument against or for his abilities.
If he can hit Diana miles and miles then he can hit hard enough to hurt Superman.
His losses are mostly people catching him off guard, for all the sense that makes, bullshit which went against Johns' creation and why he removed him in Final Crisis.
There's no limit to how many times he could hit Superman. A million doesn't matter. He can hurt him, he'll win. Superman wouldn't have the chance to do anything anyways, he'd be a statue.
The fact is, five beings have tagged/beaten/looked close to Zoom and they are all either peers or lower than Superman. Bizarro, Kal-L, Jessie Quick, Wonder Woman and Jay Garrick.
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And for everything Zoom making Superman look like a statue, here is Zoom almost losing to Bizarro in a race.
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Or Wally keeping up with him while Zoom is trying to go as fast as possible.
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Under lightspeed. So yeah, he is really untouchable.
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Not my scans BTW.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. When losing to Kingdom Come Superman is one of your most humiliating showings......Let's pull up some of Superman's humiliating showings, shall we, and compare? 😛
How about you Zoom supporters put your money where your mouth is and post scans of Zoom actually defeating a Superman-level character? Instead of scans that just show him throwing a bunch of sissy punches at Superman that have no real effect on him and then tucking tail and running away like a scared little wuss. Until you do that, you're all hot air with your Zoom beats Superman and/or "speed trumps all" BS.
Abhi's still not familiar with KMC rules (amazing how much I have to bring them up.)
Zoom's fighting to the best of his ability here.
This means that Superman won't be able to move, and that he's hitting hard enough to hurt Superman/Wonder Woman/PG.
Superman loses.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Johns had him losing to Jessie Quick and Kal-L, two of his most humiliating losses. Oh and getting punked by Inertia.
Inertia was how Johns removed him 😐
And Inertia's strategy is one of the many ways in which Zoom could beat him.
Counting wins is pointless when one is the comic-book character with the highest appearances in the world, and the other is a villain who specifically tries to improve the heroes he fight.
He is also fighting in character and in character he wouldn't do against someone like Superman.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Abhi's still not familiar with KMC rules (amazing how much I have to bring them up.)Zoom's fighting to the best of his ability here.
This means that Superman won't be able to move, and that he's hitting hard enough to hurt Superman/Wonder Woman/PG.
Superman loses.
Inertia was how Johns removed him 😐
And Inertia's strategy is one of the many ways in which Zoom could beat him.
Counting wins is pointless when one is the comic-book character with the highest appearances in the world, and the other is a villain who specifically tries to improve the heroes he fight.
And Superman can tank punches that can hurt WW/PG all day long.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
It's funny a superman fan saying show scans Zoom beating someone Superman lvl, yet when posters asked for scans of Gladiator beating anyone Thanos lvl that method doesn't work.
LOL. Exactly when did I ever claim that Gladiator could beat Thanos? I think you have me confused with another Supe's fan.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He is also fighting in character and in character he wouldn't do against someone like Superman.
Despite the fact that Kal-L and Bizarro both reacted to him? Superman also reacted to Professor Zoom who wrecked the entire Flash family and who Barry Allen was unable to even touch.And Superman can tank punches that can hurt WW/PG all day long.
He was fighting in-character against the amped Wally, when Superman was a statue in the air.
Do you think he would be trying to improve Superman here, is that your argument? That Superman would win because Zoom's not trying to win?
All day? Haha, only in your head.
For eternity? No chance.
