Zoom vs Runner...

Started by TheLordofMurder8 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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But what if it strengthens their desire to attack him? Zoom will try and improve Runner, the only way he knows how:

As I stated on page 1, this isnt the same thing as what Runners aura will do to Zoom (or anyone within it)...

It makes you docile...you start to adore him...it makes you not want to fight.

I wish I could locate the scan were he works his aura on Moondragon; cant find it...

And yet....you then posted Surfer fighting him......hence my confusion.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And yet....you then posted Surfer fighting him......hence my confusion.

That's because Surfer was struggling to resist it.

Originally posted by Deadline
That's because Surfer was struggling to resist it.

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@DarkSaint

Thats why I asked you for Zooms feats of TP resistance...

Surfer has excellent TP resistance, and he had to struggle to make himself fight Runner...

If Zoom's TP resistance is lacking, this fight is over before it starts...

Therein lies the problem.

Because he was so fast, only an amped Wally was able to perceive him when he attacked. He was blitzing speedsters so quickly he was invisible to them.

So, there are no TP resistance feats at all. Because no one has been fast enough to register :Ah, there's Zoom, TP time!'

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Therein lies the problem.

Because he was so fast, only an amped Wally was able to perceive him when he attacked. He was blitzing speedsters so quickly he was invisible to them.

So, there are no TP resistance feats at all. Because no one has been fast enough to register :Ah, there's Zoom, TP time!'

and the Runner will be able to see him. Even if you think hes faster do you really think Zoom can beat him into submission before the TP takes hold? I don't think so.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Therein lies the problem.

Because he was so fast, only an amped Wally was able to perceive him when he attacked. He was blitzing speedsters so quickly he was invisible to them.

So, there are no TP resistance feats at all. Because no one has been fast enough to register :Ah, there's Zoom, TP time!'

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The biases comes out especially in the poll.
Zoom and a strong cogent argument can be made that it's spite.

Originally posted by Decimus
The biases comes out especially in the poll.
Zoom and a strong cogent argument can be made that it's spite.

Ok, lets here your argument that this is spite in Zooms favor...

Originally posted by Deadline
and the Runner will be able to see him. Even if you think hes faster do you really think Zoom can beat him into submission before the TP takes hold? I don't think so.

Ok I repeat. Furthermore not even sure if it's standard TP. Its not like Runner is concentrating it's like an aura. You come near him you get affected.

runner is smashing in the polls

Originally posted by Deadline
Ok I repeat. Furthermore not even sure if it's standard TP. Its not like Runner is concentrating it's like an aura. You come near him you get affected.

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Not to mention that Hal Jordan has been able to stop Zoom (maybe it was a low showing). How is Zoom going to stop somebody who is stronger, faster and more durable than the Surfer while fighting the aura?

Zoom loses.

Speed kills. The Runner wins this.

Originally posted by janus77
Speed kills. The Runner wins this.

Lol what? If Runner wins it's not through speed. Zoom's localized time manipulation is uber. If Runner wins it's going to be through his other attributes like durability, strength, flight, and his aura as some of you folks are arguing.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol what? If Runner wins it's not through speed. Zoom's localized time manipulation is uber.

I really don't think that's going to work and I don't think Zoom is faster than Runner.

Has Runner faced a similar opponent?

Originally posted by Deadline
I really don't think that's going to work and I don't think Zoom is faster than Runner.

What are Runner's best speed feats? I'm not saying he's going to lose. I'm just saying speed is not the key reason he would beat Zoom. That's why I would look to his other attributes other than his speed.

Runner does have an advantage...He can fly.