I think Yoda would win this. The Senate room that Sidious was in was pretty small, so unless Vitiate could completely overwhelm Yoda with the force, there would be a lightsaber duel.
I'm not of the opinion that Vitiate sucks at lightsaber duels, but my intuition tells me that Yoda would have the edge.
Originally posted by Nephthys
People love to use nexuses to invalidate feats even when theres no reason they're relevant or its obvious the character could replicate the feat even off it. It's usually just a BS way of ignoring showings and avoiding critical thinking.Vitiate absolutely creamed the Strike Team "easily" and one-shot the Dark Council. Do you really think it matters at all if he was on a nexus or not?
There are sources and plenty of examples that confirm how a nexus works. A dark side nexus amps a dark sider's power. Nexuses in general amps a force users power. You can ignore canon, and apply your so called "critical thinking" to characters you prefer all you want, but it doesn't help your case.
Again with the double standards. Where was your "critical thinking" when you tried to lowball Talzin's performance against Sidious? Do you remember your argument there? Oh, I forgot, your statement about her performance was made almost a month ago, so I'm no longer allowed to call you out on it.
@Sinious, I will get to your post later. It won't be so much of a debate, since I know you can't and will not be able to back it up. My post to you was to expose you. Your claims of and pretending to be open minded annoys me. You're not open minded. Your mind is clouded by your bias for Vitiate, and it's showing. I wasn't comparing you to Carthage. There is no comparison, he's better than you, and he can at least admit that some of his favorite characters can be stomped by others. I'm calling you out for constantly bashing him for no reason. Most people here don't like him because he's not a TOR wanker. So attacking him on account of that annoys me and shows how much TOR bias goes on around here. He has been reported, banned, and has had his threads closed, but LeGenD can make ridiculous claims and threads, along with insulting those who don't agree with him, and he doesn't even receive so much as a warning.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
There are sources and plenty of examples that confirm how a nexus works. A dark side nexus amps a dark sider's power. Nexuses in general amps a force users power. You can ignore canon, and apply your so called "critical thinking" to characters you prefer all you want, but it doesn't help your case.Again with the double standards. Where was your "critical thinking" when you tried to lowball Talzin's performance against Sidious? Do you remember your argument there? Oh, I forgot, your statement about her performance was made almost a month ago, so I'm no longer allowed to call you out on it.
At this time I'd like to invoke the "suck my balls" defense.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
There are sources and plenty of examples that confirm how a nexus works. A dark side nexus amps a dark sider's power. Nexuses in general amps a force users power. You can ignore canon, and apply your so called "critical thinking" to characters you prefer all you want, but it doesn't help your case.Again with the double standards. Where was your "critical thinking" when you tried to lowball Talzin's performance against Sidious? Do you remember your argument there? Oh, I forgot, your statement about her performance was made almost a month ago, so I'm no longer allowed to call you out on it.
@Sinious, I will get to your post later. It won't be so much of a debate, since I know you can't and will not be able to back it up. My post to you was to expose you. Your claims of and pretending to be open minded annoys me. You're not open minded. Your mind is clouded by your bias for Vitiate, and it's showing. I wasn't comparing you to Carthage. There is no comparison, he's better than you, and he can at least admit that some of his favorite characters can be stomped by others. I'm calling you out for constantly bashing him for no reason. Most people here don't like him because he's not a TOR wanker. So attacking him on account of that annoys me and shows how much TOR bias goes on around here. He has been reported, banned, and has had his threads closed, but LeGenD can make ridiculous claims and threads, along with insulting those who don't agree with him, and he doesn't even receive so much as a warning.
Out of curiosity, is Carthage actually your biological son?
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Most people here don't like him because he's not a TOR wanker. So attacking him on account of that annoys me and shows how much TOR bias goes on around here. He has been reported, banned, and has had his threads closed, but LeGenD can make ridiculous claims and threads, along with insulting those who don't agree with him, and he doesn't even receive so much as a warning.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Nobody likes LeGenD either. I have seen far more "PT wankers" agree with, side with, and endorse Carthage, then I have seen "TOR wankers" do for LeGenD. At least LeGenD doesn't make threads, verdicts, debates, and use wording for the sole intent of trying to piss people off and aggravate them. At least LeGenD supports his own bias in favor of his own gratification through raising his favorite characters rather than supporting his bias to shit on other people's favorite characters for the sole intent of pissing them off. At least the characters LeGenD uses the most in threads aren't the characters he absolutely hates, just so he can shit on them. At least LeGenD hasn't blatantly admitted to trolling and trying to piss other people off for his own amusement. LeGenD's claims may be ridiculous, but he is not nearly as hostile as our resident troll here. I don't care if Carthage wanks the PT or TOR. I strongly disagree with both Carthage's and LeGenD's views, but at least LeGenD had the common decency not to be a complete dick about his views.
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Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66@Sinious, I will get to your post later. It won't be so much of a debate, since I know you can't and will not be able to back it up. My post to you was to expose you. Your claims of and pretending to be open minded annoys me. You're not open minded. Your mind is clouded by your bias for Vitiate, and it's showing. I wasn't comparing you to Carthage. There is no comparison, he's better than you, and he can at least admit that some of his favorite characters can be stomped by others.
Expose some one whose open to a civil discussion, who is open to all opinions? yet you defend a troll? there's something wrong with this scenario...
Carthage? a good debater? you're a fool if you actually believe that, how many times has he ignored actual feats over - hmm, i don't know. A Sparring match?! how about how Carthage lowballs characters?
You'd have to be a fool to think that.
I'm calling you out for constantly bashing him for no reason. Most people here don't like him because he's not a TOR wanker. So attacking him on account of that annoys me and shows how much TOR bias goes on around here. He has been reported and has had his threads closed, but LeGenD can make ridiculous claims and threads, along with insulting those who don't agree with him, and he doesn't even receive so much as a warning.
LeGenD doesn't make ridiculous and idiotic spite threads, to try to piss people off, He's not someone i agree with, but he's someone i like more than Carthage. Carthage's threads have been closed with good reason - He. Is. A. Troll. he constantly bashes, insults us All and ignores actual feats and does it all to try and goad people. That is not the makings of a good debater. only a fool would believe otherwise.
So us trying to get rid of this troll infestation....Annoys you? That is the most idiotic thing i have ever heard. do you like having trolls on the board? do you like imbeciles spamming porn pictures?
That is the height of idiocy - though seeing as you support carthage's foolish statements, I'm hardly surprised you and a few others are at the Apex of foolishness.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
@Sinious, I will get to your post later. It won't be so much of a debate, since I know you can't and will not be able to back it up. My post to you was to expose you. Your claims of and pretending to be open minded annoys me. You're not open minded. Your mind is clouded by your bias for Vitiate, and it's showing. I wasn't comparing you to Carthage. There is no comparison, he's better than you, and he can at least admit that some of his favorite characters can be stomped by others. I'm calling you out for constantly bashing him for no reason. Most people here don't like him because he's not a TOR wanker. So attacking him on account of that annoys me and shows how much TOR bias goes on around here. He has been reported, banned, and has had his threads closed, but LeGenD can make ridiculous claims and threads, along with insulting those who don't agree with him, and he doesn't even receive so much as a warning.
I don't think I have to respond to this as everyone else already has with solid points.
You exposed me? 😄 The only thing you exposed is the fact that you are as bad as Carthage and that says a lot by it self. You're a troll enabler and sound like a mean old lady every time you post something.
Not even once have you and Carthage proved me wrong about anything here so don't fool yourself. Im done talking about this though.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Expose some one whose open to a civil discussion, who is open to all opinions? yet you defend a troll? there's something wrong with this scenario...Carthage? a good debater? you're a fool if you actually believe that, how many times has he ignored actual feats over - hmm, i don't know. A Sparring match?! how about how Carthage lowballs characters?
You'd have to be a fool to think that.
LeGenD doesn't make ridiculous and idiotic spite threads, to try to piss people off, He's not someone i agree with, but he's someone i like more than Carthage. Carthage's threads have been closed with good reason - He. Is. A. Troll. he constantly bashes, insults us [b]All
and ignores actual feats and does it all to try and goad people. That is not the makings of a good debater. only a fool would believe otherwise.So us trying to get rid of this troll infestation....Annoys you? That is the most idiotic thing i have ever heard. do you like having trolls on the board? do you like imbeciles spamming porn pictures?
That is the height of idiocy - though seeing as you support carthage's foolish statements, I'm hardly surprised you and a few others are at the Apex of foolishness. [/B]
If you know Cart is doing something just to piss you off, then you're just an idiot for falling for it. Just as Neph's last trollish comment was made to piss me off, I just ignored it and took it that he's unable to respond without getting his ass handed to him by me once again. I'm beginning to not take him seriously anymore. I won't, however, go out my way to report him and try to get him banned for idiotic statements.
LeGenD has made threads comparing Vitiate to the ones of Mortis. Cart has never made such ridiculous claims, and the fact that you accused him of it, again, shows that you're the true idiot. I don't recall Cart ignoring feats. I do, however, recall him not taking nexus feats or off-panel/offscreen feats as seriously as actual showings performed by characters that's accomplished under their own power. As for his spite or bait threads to make others mad, all I can say to that is lol @ the idiot who falls for it. I can actually say I'm proud of my son for succeeding.
I stated the reason I was getting annoyed with this forum. The fact that you missed it, just adds to your stupidity. Again, I'm annoyed of the TOR bias here. LeGenD is proof that this thread is infested with it. He gets away with far worse things than being a little trollish here and there.
Originally posted by Sinious
I don't think I have to respond to this as everyone else already has with solid points.You exposed me? 😄 The only thing you exposed is the fact that you are as bad as Carthage and that says a lot by it self. You're a troll enabler and sound like a mean old lady every time you post something.
Not even once have you and Carthage proved me wrong about anything here so don't fool yourself. Im done talking about this though.
I'll give you a chance to make your case that Vitiate is more powerful than Yoda. Off-panel/off-screen feats that directly contradict his actual showings will be over looked, unless you have an explanation as to why he is unable to use them when we actually see him in action.
If your a person who isn't clouded by your bias then shouldn't have a problem, so get started, because when I'm done with this thread, I will make Vitiate look like a weak feeb to Yoda, and I guarantee that my argument will not be refuted.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Just as Neph's last trollish comment was made to piss me off, I just ignored it and took it that he's unable to respond without getting his ass handed to him by me once again. I'm beginning to not take him seriously anymore. I won't, however, go out my way to report him and try to get him banned for idiotic statements. I'm actually proud of him for it.
There's just no point in us having a serious discussion anymore. Our views are too different and you clearly hate me too much. So obviously I'm not going to respond seriously.
I think you really need to calm down though. You're so mad these days. Lighten up and learn to take a joke, man.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I'll give you a chance to make your case that Vitiate is more powerful than Yoda. Off-panel/off-screen feats that directly contradict his actual showings will be over looked, unless you have an explanation as to why he is unable to use them when we actually see him in action.If your a person who isn't clouded by your bias person then shouldn't have a problem, so get started, because when I'm done with this thread, I will make Vitiate look like a weak feeb to Yoda, and I guarantee that my argument will not be refuted.
Originally posted by Nephthys
There's just no point in us having a serious discussion anymore. Our views are too different and you clearly hate me too much. So obviously I'm not going to respond seriously.I think you really need to calm down though. You're so mad these days. Lighten up and learn to take a joke, man.
He speaks the truth Sidious, and I say this with love.
Originally posted by Nephthys
There's just no point in us having a serious discussion anymore. Our views are too different and you clearly hate me too much. So obviously I'm not going to respond seriously.I think you really need to calm down though. You're so mad these days. Lighten up and learn to take a joke, man.
I hate you, Neph?
Lmao STFU