HP DD
Lets put PG Thor vs chronal extasis from waveryder and shitful amped superman with a motherbox and see how he fares after he facing Darkseid's omega effect with out blocking it with mjolnir and taking 1 mil nukes on the face and a explosion that can laid waste on 1/5 of the planet like nothing.
Or something along those lines
I need some clarity here. Is Thor thinking straight, or is this B&T Thor? The only reason that he did not ramp up that fast during B&T was due to his disposition at the time. B&T Thor would eventually win IMO. A sane Thor with the Power Gem would break every bone in DD's body, and then turn him to ash, which would then be blown away by a super storm.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha care to actually prove how he rips him apart.
Superman was already amped to an insane degree in H/P. He was further amped by a mother box.
Originally posted by Galan007
[b]Section IV: H/P ("Hunter/Prey"😉 DoomsdayIt turns out that Superman was substantially amped when he battled H/P Doomsday--before he even acquired a Mother Box...
A few months before the H/P arc began, a depowered Superman encountered Henshaw in 'Superman' v2 #82. As you can see, Henshaw attempted to kill Supes via blasting him with k-nite, but Eradicator jumped in the way of the blast before it directly touched Supes(essentially sacrificing himself), and the bleed-over energies then passed into Superman himself. After this happened, Supes was not only returned to full power, but he felt better than ever:
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"I'm rejuvenated in a way I never thought possible! Something tells me I'll be able to handle anything better than ever!"
__________Soon thereafter(the same month/year the H/P arc began), it would be revealed that Superman had become immensely more powerful. Examples...
"Just tapped him a little... And he flew back like I hit him with my best haymaker!":
http://imgur.com/cyXBzZW"Even using as little effort as possible, I'm still stronger...faster...and more powerful than ever before!":
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__________Hamilton explains Superman's amp...
"You're absorbing solar radiation--and other energies--much faster than ever before! This is because you've been irradiated by something vaguely familiar to Kryptonite--call it Kryptonite-X."
Superman: "The last time I was exposed to Kryptonite, it passed through the Eradiactor first... Recharging my powers instantly!"
Hamilton: "A bit of foreshadowing there, I'd say. Bluntly, there's no physical way to expend your energy fast enough. Your powers will keep increasing until your body can't contain them.":
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__________His power increase was ambiguously alluded to during the H/P arc itself...
I'm better than before, too! Stronger.":
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__________However, his hugely amplified power during the H/P arc would be flat-out stated years later, in 'The Man of Tomorrow' #9...
"After his recovery, [Superman] was stronger than ever. Good thing, too--'cause Doomsday had cheated death as well! Even with the extra power, he still needed some gizmo called a 'Mother Box' to help him stand up to Doomsday.":
http://imgur.com/SuRu2czIn a nutshell: Superman was massively amped when the H/P arc began(to the point that he could use as little effort as possible, and was still more powerful than he was at his standard levels), yet was laughably inferior to H/P Doomsday. He then further amped his powers with a Mother Box, and was still barely able to give DD pause.
That is a huge testament to how f*cking powerful Doomsday was during that arc. FAR more powerful than I'd previously thought, tbh. [/B]
Doomsday still treated him like a child. So yeah, he would rip Thor apart when Thor was only drawing power from the gem subconsciously. And spare me the nonsense that nobody can KO a gem wielder, Drax got KTFO in the very same arc.
Originally posted by Stoic
I need some clarity here. Is Thor thinking straight, or is this B&T Thor? The only reason that he did not ramp up that fast during B&T was due to his disposition at the time. B&T Thor would eventually win IMO. A sane Thor with the Power Gem would break every bone in DD's body, and then turn him to ash, which would then be blown away by a super storm.
Originally posted by abhilegendnice lowball using Drax as a example, again you have proof on THOR been able to be put down. Did you notice no one could ko Thor or even steal the gem from him.
Sure.Superman was already amped to an insane degree in H/P. He was further amped by a mother box.
Doomsday still treated him like a child. So yeah, he would rip Thor apart when Thor was only drawing power from the gem subconsciously. And spare me the nonsense that nobody can KO a gem wielder, Drax got KTFO in the very same arc.
Nothing Thanos did was able to harm or stop via energy or physical attacks.
Originally posted by Zack Fairare you kidding ? Thanos was physically trying to put him down and hitting him withdouble handed energy blasts, one he realised he was having no effect he used a plot device.
Did Thanos try hard though? I don't remember the fight. It looked like Thanos was all "Meh I'm not going to waste my time and energy fighting this dumbass" and pulled out his gun.
Originally posted by Insane TitanI'm not kidding. Like I said I don't remember much of the fight. All I remember is a short exchange and Thanos going all "**** this shit."
are you kidding ? Thanos was physically trying to put him down and hitting him withdouble handed energy blasts, one he realised he was having no effect he used a plot device.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
nice lowball using Drax as a example, again you have proof on THOR been able to be put down. Did you notice no one could ko Thor or even steal the gem from him.Nothing Thanos did was able to harm or stop via energy or physical attacks.
Because no one tried. Its not that hard to spot the glowing object and remove it, but apparently that's too bright for characters under Starlin.
Then its a good thing that DD is stronger than Thanos.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Where is the evidence that a power gem wielder cannot be koed or defeated?Can someone give me those issue references?
Also it will be nice if we can make up our mind to weather thos was in wm during b and t or not, because I see people trying to spin this argument into an hypothetical thor with a pg
Thor wasn't in true warrior madness. It states this in the book. Drax was KO'd because he was too dumb to consciously tap into the Power Gem on the fly like someone like Adam Warlock could. I was asking if this was B&T Thor because it does not stipulate in the OP. It only says Thor with the Power Gem. So I'm not spinning anything, I'm just curious. Either way Thor wins. Also when did you ever see a Power gem user KO'd? I mean aside from Drax.