Originally posted by abhilegendhaha you're serious aren't you, lol. The proof was Thor never got ko'd even with taking more punishment than it took to ko Drax.
And why not? Drax was a peer of Thor and he was drawing power from the gem the same way as Thor was.Because no one tried. Its not that hard to spot the glowing object and remove it, but apparently that's too bright for characters under Starlin.
Then its a good thing that DD is stronger than Thanos.
Thanos tried to put him down. Yeah that's why Thanos never tried ffs, DD is a moron compared to Thanos. Of all the times a PG user has fought it's been snatched once , keep up the lowball.
Based on nothing when it comes to punching/fighting.
Originally posted by Stoic
Thor wasn't in true warrior madness. It states this in the book. Drax was KO'd because he was too dumb to consciously tap into the Power Gem on the fly like someone like Adam Warlock could. I was asking if this was B&T Thor because it does not stipulate in the OP. It only says Thor with the Power Gem. So I'm not spinning anything, I'm just curious. Either way Thor wins. Also when did you ever see a Power gem user KO'd? I mean aside from Drax.
So drax wasn't consciously tapping into the pg and apparently neither was thor, why is thor un ko able again? Let alone invincible like I believe you claimed before, do you have hard evidence or not?
I think I wll let this run its couse because I still have to respond to you and bran in the thanos thread andI have I have been really busy with rl stuff to get into another full argument.
But it will be nice if evidence can be provided
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So drax wasn't consciously tapping into the pg and apparently neither was thor, why is thor un ko able again? Let alone invincible like I believe you claimed before, do you have hard evidence or not?I think I wll let this run its couse because I still have to respond to you and bran in the thanos thread andI have I have been really busy with rl stuff to get into another full argument.
But it will be nice if evidence can be provided
If you bothered to read what i said about the Power Gem and what it does for it's wielder you wouldn't be bringing up the citation. Did you read what I wrote? It was a quote BTW. Pretty sure I made that perfectly clear. Go and read what it states about the PG then you will know why a said what I did. It wasn't a claim, it is what is written. Do you understand that?
Drax only tapped the Power gem on a subconscious level. All of the Gems are used with brain power. Drax had the mental might of a kitten. Even in the rage that thor was in he was several orders of magnitude smarter than Drax. I didn't think that I had to explain this.
You could give the Power Gem to Jarvis, and as long as he knew how to draw power from it, he would beat the mess out of Doomsday. So other than Drax, who else was KO'd?
Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha you're serious aren't you, lol. The proof was Thor never got ko'd even with taking more punishment than it took to ko Drax.Thanos tried to put him down. Yeah that's why Thanos never tried ffs, DD is a moron compared to Thanos. Of all the times a PG user has fought it's been snatched once , keep up the lowball.
Based on nothing when it comes to punching/fighting.
Thanos isn't a measure of how Thor would fare here. Thanos doesn't go around breaking bones of people like Superman while they are heavily amped. That's the sole reason why you're arguing in favor of Thor here, because Thanos failed to KO Thor nobody can't. Keep it up.
****ing Gamora has kicked and separated PG from Drax while it was in his stomach. Red Hulk has separated PG from Hood. Its not that hard.
Has Thanos ever broken a top tier characters' bones while they are amped several times over? Yes or No.
Originally posted by abhilegendbut you're using Drax as proof when we are talking about Thor , Draxs failing are not Thor's surely you SHOULD be able to understand that.
Yeah, I'm serious. So what? This shit "Thor was never koed" is like talking with Hulk fanboys. "WWH was never KOED, so nobody can KO him".Thanos isn't a measure of how Thor would fare here. Thanos doesn't go around breaking bones of people like Superman while they are heavily amped. That's the sole reason why you're arguing in favor of Thor here, because Thanos failed to KO Thor nobody can't. Keep it up.
****ing Gamora has kicked and separated PG from Drax while it was in his stomach. Red Hulk has separated PG from Hood. Its not that hard.
Has Thanos ever broken a top tier characters' bones while they are amped several times over? Yes or No.
Just like the reason why you're defending DD because he took on Supes.
Fact remaines you have no proof of Thor been hurt or slowed down.
Haha again using a low showing from Drax as proof, did you see the gem come loose from Thor's head with all the punishment he took? No you didn't , keep up the lowball though.
Originally posted by Stoic
If you bothered to read what i said about the Power Gem and what it does for it's wielder you wouldn't be bringing up the citation. Did you read what I wrote? It was a quote BTW. Pretty sure I made that perfectly clear. Go and read what it states about the PG then you will know why a said what I did. It wasn't a claim, it is what is written. Do you understand that?Drax only tapped the Power gem on a subconscious level. All of the Gems are used with brain power. Drax had the mental might of a kitten. Even in the rage that thor was in he was several orders of magnitude smarter than Drax. I didn't think that I had to explain this.
You could give the Power Gem to Jarvis, and as long as he knew how to draw power from it, he would beat the mess out of Doomsday. So other than Drax, who else was KO'd?
Originally posted by Insane Titan
but you're using Drax as proof when we are talking about Thor , Draxs failing are not Thor's surely you SHOULD be able to understand that.Just like the reason why you're defending DD because he took on Supes.
Fact remaines you have no proof of Thor been hurt or slowed down.
Haha again using a low showing from Drax as proof, did you see the gem come loose from Thor's head with all the punishment he took? No you didn't , keep up the lowball though.
No, I'm doing it because DD was a beast and has actual showings of beating the shit out of everybody he met.
Thor was slowed down by Thanos' gun pretty hard. Adam Warlock and Dr. Strange had him on ropes before he redirected their attacks.
So yeah, you are wrong. As usual.
And again ignoring anything that doesn't fits with you. How about Red Hulk taking away PG from Hood, who actually had knowledge about how to use it? Keep up the thanos wanking though.
Did you find the feat where Thanos breaks bones of a top tier yet? Or is it "hahaha, blah blah blah" again?
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I don't know you tell me, the burden of proof comes to the guy who makes the claim that pg wielders cannot be defeated or ko'ed.So if you say pg wielders cannot be koed it will be good for you to show the evidence. So far the evidence is not helping your case
What evidence are you speaking of exactly? You want me to prove to you that a competent PG user is not able to be physically defeated or KO'd? The key word here is competent. Drax was not a competent user. The Champion was barely able to be called competent, and he wasn't KO'd bu any of Thanos' attacks, or when he accidentally destroyed the planet. Aside from that I have never seen a PG user KO'd. So what evidence are you looking for? When I stated that PG can make its user invincible, I was taking that opinion from the description of the gem, or do you want to pretend that you know what i was thinking like Galan attempted to do? Is that making any sense to you? If not too bad, I won't explain myself again. You will just have to do a search on the Power Gem to see why I made the statement.
Originally posted by StoicI understand where you are coming from and you make some sort of sense (how the power gem is described). But sometimes showings and common sense contradict things described.
What evidence are you speaking of exactly? You want me to prove to you that a competent PG user is not able to be physically defeated or KO'd? The key word here is competent. Drax was not a competent user. The Champion was barely able to be called competent, and he wasn't KO'd bu any of Thanos' attacks, or when he accidentally destroyed the planet. Aside from that I have never seen a PG user KO'd. So what evidence are you looking for? When I stated that PG can make its user invincible, I was taking that opinion from the description of the gem, or do you want to pretend that you know what i was thinking like Galan attempted to do? Is that making any sense to you? If not too bad, I won't explain myself again. You will just have to do a search on the Power Gem to see why I made the statement.
Originally posted by abhilegendso you think Thanos using a force field gun equates to Doomsday stopping Thor lol , did DD all of a sudden gain said gun/forcefield powers.
Its an example of Drax being KOED with PG. But if you insist, Thanos' gun KOED Thor. So there you go.No, I'm doing it because DD was a beast and has actual showings of beating the shit out of everybody he met.
Thor was slowed down by Thanos' gun pretty hard. Adam Warlock and Dr. Strange had him on ropes before he redirected their attacks.
So yeah, you are wrong. As usual.
And again ignoring anything that doesn't fits with you. How about Red Hulk taking away PG from Hood, who actually had knowledge about how to use it? Keep up the thanos wanking though.
Did you find the feat where Thanos breaks bones of a top tier yet? Or is it "hahaha, blah blah blah" again?
PG Thor beat the shot out if everyone he met. Haha Adam warlock used the phucking soul gem you clown, DD doesn't have this option. You do know we are talking about what DD has that can stop or harm Thor , Care to show me the scans with soul gem and mystic powers lmao.
The irony of you is unreal , try using feats from the character fighting in this thread then you may do better.
Again using other character is fail and lowballing typical of you been desperate. Did you see someone as smart as Thanos trying to steal the gem? Or even the gem coming loose during battle.
He doesn't have to break bones he just effortlessly beats to death high heralds without even going all out or casually destroying people that busy planets for fun.
Originally posted by h1a8
I understand where you are coming from and you make some sort of sense (how the power gem is described). But sometimes showings and common sense contradict things described.
Do you agree that infinite durability requires infinite power to achieve? If so, then when has a PG ever drew infinite power? Yes they grow in power over time, but when do they have infinite power? Thor with the PG will get more and more durable and stronger. But the first second he has the PG he is weaker and less durable than if he had it for hours (constantly drawing power from).
It's up to the user. This is what I was trying to say all along. instead i got into a senseless argument over the sauce, and not the meat of the matter. Any competent PG user by implied power should not only be able to soundly defeat HP DD, but you could toss in WB Hulk, DS Sentry, and OWAW Superman, and they would still get the living crap beaten out of them. The problem is the competence. Drax was unable to draw power from the gem on a conscious level because he wasn't wrapped tightly enough. Drax made the Savage Hulk look like a brain surgeon. Okay here's another example. if you gave batman the Power gem, he would also beat the mess out of all of the people that I mentioned. it's the gem not the character. I do not believe for one second that normal Thor would do anything more than bleed on HP Doomsday's fists. no offense to any of his fans, it's just the way that i see it. Again I only got my opinion from the description, and even in the description is shows that there is actually a limit to the Power Gem. However I believe that the limit is far above anything that HP DD has in his tank. This is something that I attempted to explain several times, but it seemed futile, because Galan could not, or was not willing to get past one sentence. That seems to happen a lot on KMC.
Originally posted by Insane TitanYou asked if Thor was ever KOED. I answered that he was KOED by a simple force field trapping him. So yes, he can be KOED.
so you think Thanos using a force field gun equates to Doomsday stopping Thor lol , did DD all of a sudden gain said gun/forcefield powers.
PG Thor beat the shot out if everyone he met.Exclusing Thanos.
Haha Adam warlock used the phucking soul gem you clown, DD doesn't have this option. You do know we are talking about what DD has that can stop or harm Thor , Care to show me the scans with soul gem and mystic powers lmao.And again, you fail to grasp a simple concept after asking for it. Thor was hurt by Adam and Strange. But keep laughing like a maniac.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3531224-0+%2810%29.jpg
Itwas a simple Karmic-mystic energy attack.
The irony of you is unreal , try using feats from the character fighting in this thread then you may do better.And reading may help you. But alas.
Again using other character is fail and lowballing typical of you been desperate. Did you see someone as smart as Thanos trying to steal the gem? Or even the gem coming loose during battle.So, Thanos is dumber than Red Hulk? Because Red Hulk immediately went for PG and actually separated it from Hood.
He doesn't have to break bones he just effortlessly beats to death high heralds without even going all out or casually destroying people that busy planets for fun.So, no you don't have it. Nice concession. And Superman beats high heralds for fun too.
Originally posted by abhilegendit's irrelevant as DD can't produce a force block, DD offers physical power nothing more so again you fail.
You asked if Thor was ever KOED. I answered that he was KOED by a simple force field trapping him. So yes, he can be KOED.Exclusing Thanos. And again, you fail to grasp a simple concept after asking for it. Thor was hurt by Adam and Strange. But keep laughing like a maniac.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3531224-0+%2810%29.jpg
Itwas a simple Karmic-mystic energy attack.
And reading may help you. But alas.
So, Thanos is dumber than Red Hulk? Because Red Hulk immediately went for PG and actually separated it from Hood.
So, no you don't have it. Nice concession. And Superman beats high heralds for fun too.
Clearly because Thanos is more than the others and offers more than DD has.
The concept is DD stopping or harming PG Thor with what he has to offer , il wait on the scans of DD been able to perform a mystic style attack. And lol at it actually stalling him much.
Cry more child , it doesn't help your case though.
Lol Red Hulk went up against the Hood ffs not a God that was going mad , Hood never did anything like Thor did in battle. Another god try to lowball Thor via someone else though.
The only concession is you lowballing because your piss weak arguments fail on the point of showing DD been able to put Thor down PHYSICALLY.
Superman has to go all out to beat high heralds, Thanos does it casually.
