T800 has way better damage soak that robocop, Reese clearly states that he isnt sure if todays weapons could kill the Terminator, now correct me if im worng but I dont think Robo has a plasma rifle in his arsenal? no?? ok then, modern weapons, he will be able to damage T no doubt, but he would get killed before he could finish the Terminator off. Not to mention we have seen Robo get severely damaged in both versions by regular (albeit high caliber) gunfire.
Originally posted by CadenceV2
Here is the T2 3D btw. Great short film by Cameron, Hamilton, and Arnold.
WTF, a thrown metal Frisbee-drone blew the head off a T-800.
Originally posted by Robtard
WTF, a thrown metal Frisbee-drone blew the head off a T-800.
Yes, a highly explosive hunk of metal thrown with super strength in the ton ranges at the neck joint.
It actually is quite believable since again, 1) it was highly explosive, 2) thrown by a multi ton machine, 3) was shown to clearly hit the neck which is all moving joints .
I'm not sure why that is a surprise?
Originally posted by relentless1🙂
T800 has way better damage soak that robocop, Reese clearly states that he isnt sure if todays weapons could kill the Terminator, now correct me if im worng but I dont think Robo has a plasma rifle in his arsenal? no?? ok then, modern weapons, he will be able to damage T no doubt, but he would get killed before he could finish the Terminator off. Not to mention we have seen Robo get severely damaged in both versions by regular (albeit high caliber) gunfire.
Originally posted by RobtardReese was a seasoned soldier who was uber trained at killing T Units. He knew their weak spots.
Pipe bomb, dude. Clearly Reese was exaggerating or referring to weapons he could logically arm himself with, ie common handguns, rifles, shotguns etc. Unless you think Reese's homemade bomb is superior to say an RPG?T-800 wank needs to stop.
Robo does not.
Originally posted by Robtard
Ripping a T-800 to individual components with his Robocain tearing apart strength will do.
This argument can go both ways actually. After all Murphy pieces are dismantle with screwdrivers and such in the movies. I see no reason why realistically his pieces can be ripped off too. Same for the seen of a ninja robot using a steel sword with a razor edge cutting Murphy's arm of rather easy.
Anyway I do not see one over the other in strength feats by movie or comic feats for that matter. Durability wise both have high showings and low showings.
What matters is skill, speed, and special abilities. I think T-800 has the moving speed and skill advantage. Robocop has the reaction speed advantage. Both have unique abilities that can play a major role in a fight. In Terminator case x ray scanning as well able to scan machines for how they work. A big boon over all IMO that was overlooked heavily in death battle.
Originally posted by CadenceV2
Yes, a highly explosive hunk of metal thrown with super strength in the ton ranges at the neck joint.It actually is quite believable since again, 1) it was highly explosive, 2) thrown by a multi ton machine, 3) was shown to clearly hit the neck which is all moving joints .
I'm not sure why that is a surprise?
What about the small arms fire that incapcitated, Robocop? He took on a half dozen police officers fireing both, hand guns and small round automatics that rendered him useless? The terminator, however, endured everytype of of small arm, automatic, that the police force had to offer and kept functioning as though noting as was affecting him? There's no way to de argue that that small arms automatics can greatly affect, Robocop, whereas,, The Terminator, they act as nothing more than a minor nuiscance.
Originally posted by CadenceV2
This argument can go both ways actually. After all Murphy pieces are dismantle with screwdrivers and such in the movies. I see no reason why realistically his pieces can be ripped off too. Same for the seen of a ninja robot using a steel sword with a razor edge cutting Murphy's arm of rather easy.Anyway I do not see one over the other in strength feats by movie or comic feats for that matter. Durability wise both have high showings and low showings.
What matters is skill, speed, and special abilities. I think T-800 has the moving speed and skill advantage. Robocop has the reaction speed advantage. Both have unique abilities that can play a major role in a fight. In Terminator case x ray scanning as well able to scan machines for how they work. A big boon over all IMO that was overlooked heavily in death battle.
It took Robocop being pinned down, heavy industrial equipment and lots of sweat to break Robocop apart.
Do you really think that pipebomb would have blown Robocop in half?
Do you think a T-800 could have surived the fall from the skyscrapper considering a truck did some damage?
If you're including comics (which we don't), then Robocop took on multiple T units and won, iirc. But again, comics are irrelevant here so it wouldn't matter if a T unit bend Robocoo over a barrel and had his way.
Originally posted by Robtard
It took Robocop being pinned down, heavy industrial equipment and lots of sweat to break Robocop apart.Do you really think that pipebomb would have blown Robocop in half?
Do you think a T-800 could have surived the fall from the skyscrapper considering a truck did some damage?
If you're including comics (which we don't), then Robocop took on multiple T units and won, iirc. But again, comics are irrelevant here so it wouldn't matter if a T unit bend Robocoo over a barrel and had his way.
There was nothing heavy about the equipment in T3 used to fix Robo Cop up.
Pipe should work if aced in the right areas. Mouth, armpit, under the knee, Ect. That how explosions work, it's all about placement. Now there is the fact too that T-800 tanked quite a few 40mm grenades to the chest with no damage while Robo was heavily damage by one 40mm grenade to the chest. So yes I think a plastic bomb will work if place right.
The truck messed up hiseg joint when he was dragged under. I for sure think T-800 can survive a draught fall from the height Robo did and onto a gas pipe with only minor damage realistically. That one feat is Robo cops only super highend afterall.
This is a movie fight, I mention the comics cause death battle did, and in the comics they are still even. Also in the comics one Terminator decimated Robo cop to pieces. In another comic the T-800 in T2 movie beat Robocop up ti rink used a special T-800 shut down device. So even in the comics rink was also outmatched. The only time he rocked tons of terminators wAs when Robo rebuilt himself with Skynet technology 🙂
you have to remember that the pipe bomb attack only worked after an entire movie of wearing the T800 down, a truck running it over messed up its body, in Salvation he tanked straight on grenade blasts to the chest and face, that thing is hard to kill with todays tech and thats all that Robo has at his disposal, end of debate T800 would win, it would be a decent fight but robo loses
Originally posted by Robtard
IIRC, the T-800 in Salvation was tougher/stronger due to the time jumps altering history. At least I read something like that somewhere back when it came out.
I rechecked the movie itself, and there was no such claim other than Skynet was producing Terminators way ahead of the known time line that John was told as a kid. They made T-800s faster than what he was informed about.
The claim they were faster or stronger was never stated. Just they were ahead of schedule as far as being made.
I also seen people say they had Hydrogen Cells like T-850 on online arguments. This is false as John even stated they were Nuclear fuel cells in the movie which is consistent with a Terminator Novel that stated Nuke Cells as well.
In short there is nothing stated they were any better than the older movie ones other than being made earlier in the known time frame.
Figured out where I read it:
"This T-800 is shown to be somewhat superior to the T-800s from the original timeline. It appears to be tougher than the original, as it is able to take repeated shots to the chest by grenade launcher without any visible damage (though it was temporarily disabled by a close range attack). In addition, it was able to take close range submachine gun fire to the chest without any visible damage whatsoever, even to its living tissue. It also seems slightly bulkier than previous Terminators, which had more skeletal frames. However, this may simply be a trick of the eye as the T-800 was still partially covered in burnt flesh and muscles around the shoulder regions (and may also be a reflection of the film's budget allowing the production team to more accurately match the endoskeleton to its outer dimensions)." Link
Does seem to be speculation and it got its head ripped off, so it was probably in line with a standard T-800 despite some minor physical differences.
Originally posted by Robtard
Figured out where I read it:"This T-800 is shown to be somewhat superior to the T-800s from the original timeline. It appears to be tougher than the original, as it is able to take repeated shots to the chest by grenade launcher without any visible damage (though it was temporarily disabled by a close range attack). In addition, it was able to take close range submachine gun fire to the chest without any visible damage whatsoever, even to its living tissue. It also seems slightly bulkier than previous Terminators, which had more skeletal frames. However, this may simply be a trick of the eye as the T-800 was still partially covered in burnt flesh and muscles around the shoulder regions (and may also be a reflection of the film's budget allowing the production team to more accurately match the endoskeleton to its outer dimensions)." Link
Does seem to be speculation and it got its head ripped off, so it was probably in line with a standard T-800.
I hate wikis for this reason. As a Godzilla fan it pi$$es me off how the GZ wiki's have all these stats and numbers pulled from their @$$es lol.
But yeah, the head ripped of by Marcus seems way more in line with T-800 of the past.
Originally posted by CadenceV2Points I made in the previous Robo/T Unit thread. And they were ignored.
There was nothing heavy about the equipment in T3 used to fix Robo Cop up.Pipe should work if aced in the right areas. Mouth, armpit, under the knee, Ect. That how explosions work, it's all about placement. Now there is the fact too that T-800 tanked quite a few 40mm grenades to the chest with no damage while Robo was heavily damage by one 40mm grenade to the chest. So yes I think a plastic bomb will work if place right.
The truck messed up hiseg joint when he was dragged under. I for sure think T-800 can survive a draught fall from the height Robo did and onto a gas pipe with only minor damage realistically. That one feat is Robo cops only super highend afterall.
This is a movie fight, I mention the comics cause death battle did, and in the comics they are still even. Also in the comics one Terminator decimated Robo cop to pieces. In another comic the T-800 in T2 movie beat Robocop up ti rink used a special T-800 shut down device. So even in the comics rink was also outmatched. The only time he rocked tons of terminators wAs when Robo rebuilt himself with Skynet technology 🙂