War Hulk & Death Sentry vs. WWH & Voidtry

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Voidtry has the power because he is Sentry without worry his only downfall is Robert can still subconsciously hold him back.

Sentry when stable is a mirror image of the Void, except from he is the good counterpart.

Sentry as you know is constantly held back by his mental illness so he doesn't like using his powers much anyway.

Maybe I am not explaining myself that well, but what you said is what I'm saying. Sentry raw stats did not seem enough, and other than being Void showed no stats in power that surpass his post molecule Man fight feats.

Whether holding back or not is irrelevant as Sentry powers are all base on molecule man like manipulation. He did not understood how to tap into this fully till after that said fight. So again Sentry has the power to beat WWH at the time, he simply could not via raw stats alone which is supported by non void (who uses molecule manipulation) feats.

Whether he was scared to use his powers or not as at that time he could not use his full potential anyway. That much is clear thanks tithe Molecule Man fight .

Anyway that is my views on the feats presented and statements.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I didn't fail to prove it, in fact I provided more evidence actually relevant to the issues and proved my point.

You just use the scans to twist it to fit your desired situation, which is Hulk wins.

Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it's wrong.

You really did fail though.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Maybe I am not explaining myself that well, but what you said is what I'm saying. Sentry raw stats did not seem enough, and other than being Void showed no stats in power that surpass his post molecule Man fight feats.

Whether holding back or not is irrelevant as Sentry powers are all base on molecule man like manipulation. He did not understood how to tap into this fully till after that said fight. So again Sentry has the power to beat WWH at the time, he simply could not via raw stats alone which is supported by non void (who uses molecule manipulation) feats.

Whether he was scared to use his powers or not as at that time he could not use his full potential anyway. That much is clear thanks tithe Molecule Man fight .

So are you saying you think he stalemated Hulk in WWH or do you believe otherwise?

When weakened he showed that much capability, I easily think he had the power to defeat Hulk before he fully discovered his molecular power. He doesn't need it to win everything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was mentally unsure of himself and went into battle cutting loose and thanking the Hulk for stopping him as he realized he became the threat. Void is more sure of himself and more competent than the Sentry due to the guilt which sometimes weakens him greatly. If the Sentry or Vpid doesn't want to be stopped he will continue to come back unless confronted by the avatar of death, Thanos.

Against the Hulk even the WW version a mentally weak Sentry burned him out while fighting the Hulk'a type of fight.

Sentry is just on another level at his best.

Sums up better than what I am saying.

Originally posted by carver9
You really did fail though.

Originally posted by carver9
You really did fail though.

No you see Carver that's the thing, you think it's a failure because you disagree with it and you have an irrational love for Hulk that blinds you to the truth. The fact that I am right doesn't matter to you as whatever happens in your eyes Hulk always wins.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Sums up better than what I am saying.

Sure I agree with what Quanchi said there, I have been saying that in other threads.

Except from the Thanos part.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
So are you saying you think he stalemated Hulk in WWH or do you believe otherwise?

When weakened he showed that much capability, I easily think he had the power to defeat Hulk before he fully discovered his molecular power. He doesn't need it to win everything.

I think he stalemated WWH without his full potential of power set. I think WBH might been too much for a battle of stats vs stats. Of course Molecule Manipulation Sentry or his Void mindset would still win that battle too.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
I think he stalemated WWH without his full potential of power set. I think WBH might been too much for a battle of stats vs stats. Of course Molecule Manipulation Sentry or his Void mindset would still win that battle too.

Ah okay thank you for clarifying that. I understand better now.

Quan summed it up nicely

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

Quan...you think Sentry can beat Odin. Be quiet.

Originally posted by carver9
Quan...you think Sentry can beat Odin. Be quiet.

Originally posted by carver9
Quan...you think Sentry can beat Odin. Be quiet.

So you're not even going to address his point?

I always wondered y sentry didn't use his calming aura

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I always wondered y sentry didn't use his calming aura

Reed did use it by recreating the aura. Hulk was going to succumb to it but Reed was caught. Does make you wonder though could've saved some destruction.

Odin is overrated IMO. He has one feat of shaking galaxies in a fight with Set, yet that's it. He could not put a dent in Galactus, and Doctor Strange with a spell dropped Galactus.

Odin is fan wanked weak sauce by feats. Thor is as powerful as Odin overall.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Odin is overrated IMO. He has one feat of shaking galaxies in a fight with Set, yet that's it. He could not put a dent in Galactus, and Doctor Strange with a spell dropped Galactus.

Odin is fan wanked weak sauce by feats. Thor is as powerful as Odin overall.

Lol no

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lol no

He never done anything over what Mephisto, Dormammu, Gaea, or even Thanos (who he failed to beat with Surfers help no less) or Surtur (who Thor beaten straight up).

So yeah. By feats Odin on average excluding one high end is overwanked in general.

Something I've always wondered was how exactly does Sentry calming powers work on the Hulk. Does it work automatically or is it something that Sentry has to consciously has to use? Could it be argued that Sentry was using those powers in the WWH fight? If he was wouldn't that make Hulk look even more impressive in that fight.