I think people are dwelling on the damage soak. I'm pretty sure OP is talking about them existing irl, not going through the exact same ordeals as they have in the comics.
My earlier post still applies. They could absolutely exist, all except the top 5-10% of their tech that doesn't actually exist. The only issues are legality and longevity.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yea those pigs have a huge problem with someone doing the work they never can or will do. Cops only show up after the crime.
You don't know many officers, do you? This is a terribly broad brush to paint them all with.
First. I like this thread, reminds me of one i made some time ago. I was thinking about this and this is what I would come up with.
I think both are smart enough to see that they can't achieve things like they do in comics, they wouldn't endanger their lives trying to be vigiliantes. Still I think they have a higher moral than normal real world humans and would try everything to make this world a better place, from their point of view.
Bruce. He would make the best deal possible and sell the military tech company. He would not support war or killing at all. He would decide to fight crime but not like he does in comics. He would see the reasons why crime exists or why it is so overwhelming and decide to fight the reasons of it. Poverty, fear, desperation, lack of education etc. Like Warren Buffett said “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”. Bruce would be rich, but by far not rich enough to make a change, however with his intellect and his incorrupt personality and extreme moral he would become richer, he would be one of them, using their weapons to become wealthy enough to change things. In our capitalistic world the only real power is in the hands of those who have the money. Once his wealthy would be big enough he would start making changes, he would gt rid of the compound interest system that creates our modern world slavery, then he would buy all the media so they would become objective again instead of championing the cause of others. Through his wealth the politicians wouldn't change, they would still be actors but this time working for someone who wants to do good instead of bleeding out th majority. There would be a better school and health system within a couple of years and the people would have a basic income. However, Bruce is paranoid and he doesn't trust the people, which isn't a problem since the majority wants to be led and there is no real democracy on this planet anyway. He woul control the people like they are controlled now, Big Brother or rather Brother Eye would be still watching. I could imagine him to train some "Robins" but not to fight physically, rather real humans but who have the traits of real philosophers like Plato imagined them, so once he is gone there is a special group of leaders who work for the best of humanity, incorrupt and selfless.
I don't know if this would be possible though. First he might be considered a danger even if he plays smart and will be eliminated and I don't know if there is a human being that would qualify as a "RL Robin".
Frank. For Frank I could imagine him to become a detective a real cop who solves crimes and tries to make the best out of his situation as a life of a vigiliante would be short and unrealistic. However, a more extreme way to fight crime could be for him to become a criminal himself, kill other gangsters and raise in their ranks, till he has enough power and influence to make a real change, to impose a code of honor in the crime world that everyone has to follow. This would give him the chance to clean the streets in a differen't manner. Crime would still exist but most people would be unaffected as long as the criminals get their share from illegal actions. Drugs could still be baught, maybe no meth and crack but LSD, Weed, Shrooms, Alcohol etc. Things that are not that dangerous. Prostitution would also exist but no one would be forced to do it. Stealing could be limited to those who have more than enough. If this would work or not depends on how brutal he would enforce it and if he would make it that far in the ranks of criminals.
I just woke up, so this is by far not perfect and just "funny" fiction.
Punisher would last longer.
Batman? No way. Its like having Paris Hilton secretly learning 127 martial arts, whilst achieving honours degrees in multiple languages, engineering, applied sciences and criminology. Whilst maintaining an Olympic level physique, not just in raw strength, but speed, agility and stamina as well.
Oh, and not just achieving a grasp of high level economics and business, but actually helping to turn such a massive profit that you could just lose millions in R+D every year.
That's the unrealistic aspect of it. Not his tech.
Re: How close could a real world human get to be Batman or the Punisher ?
Originally posted by Supermex
[B]-He inherits his parents fortune who run a militarily tech company worth 10 million dollars.
-He has a IQ of 150. So a genius right below the level of a Stephen Hawking
Forget the rest. If a guy inherits 10 million dollars and he's a genius. he hires a kill squad and equips them to get his vengeance for him.
Mother F#$%ers gone/game over.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Not dumber then saying someone could be a real life Batman cause they had money. 😆
Except that isn't what I said. Most of the tech exists, the martial arts exist, the policing and detective methods are replicable. But it would take a confluence of a lot of factors in a person to be possible. Money is just one of them. And they wouldn't be as good as Batman in the comics, because they ignore things like recovery time and physics. But a reasonable facsimile could exist, yes.
srug
On the other hand, you insulted an entire profession of people, many of whom routinely put their lives on the line for the public good, probably because you have a negative view of a particular subset of them. Maybe I'm wrong about Batman. But even if I'm entirely wrong, the levels of stupidity and ignorance between us here are, to state it mildly, wildly different.
Originally posted by Digi
srugOn the other hand, you insulted an entire profession of people, many of whom routinely put their lives on the line for the public good, probably because you have a negative view of a particular subset of them. Maybe I'm wrong about Batman. But even if I'm entirely wrong, the levels of stupidity and ignorance between us here are, to state it mildly, wildly different.
Talk is cheap on the internet 😆
I happen to have a friend that's a cop, I call him a piggy all the time and he laughs. You might take a joke about cops on the internet a bit far. Now go call the police and tell them what I said.
Back to OP, none of what Batman does is possible. Its a movie. Get real.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Talk is cheap on the internet 😆I happen to have a friend that's a cop, I call him a piggy all the time and he laughs. You might take a joke about cops on the internet a bit far. Now go call the police and tell them what I said.
This is a classic troll move. Say something insulting with no sense that it's anything but that, get called out, then decry it as just a joke and laugh at the other person for being upset. I'm not upset, as your pathetic PM attempted to revel in. I was just telling you what an asshat you were for an insulting opinion.
But I was wrong. You're not an idiot when it comes to generalizing professions. I rescind my statement, and I'm glad you're not bigoted toward cops. But now I'm done taking anything you say seriously, or responding to it, because there's no point. It's not an attempt at getting you back, because obviously you don't care; it's just saving me some time from dealing with a troll.
Originally posted by Digi
Except that isn't what I said. Most of the tech exists, the martial arts exist, the policing and detective methods are replicable. But it would take a confluence of a lot of factors in a person to be possible. Money is just one of them. And they wouldn't be as good as Batman in the comics, because they ignore things like recovery time and physics. But a reasonable facsimile could exist, yes.srug
On the other hand, you insulted an entire profession of people, many of whom routinely put their lives on the line for the public good, probably because you have a negative view of a particular subset of them. Maybe I'm wrong about Batman. But even if I'm entirely wrong, the levels of stupidity and ignorance between us here are, to state it mildly, wildly different.
Out of curiosity, are mods not supposed to behave exemplary?