War on ISIS

Started by red g jacks55 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
This one might be a little different and it's what America should have done in 2003. Gone in small for the purpose of taking out the actual threat ie gone into Afghanistan and hunted Al-Qaeda.
...so then send a spy over there to assassinate saddam? his party would just retain power. there was no other way into iraq. let's not fool ourselves. you have a choice between tolerating saddam forever(ever(ever)) vs dismantling that regime and rebuilding the state.

i would say though they made some massive mistakes in the aftermath..

YouTube video

Watched a new murder video of some ISIS militants cutting off a man's ears, then slashing his throat open and stomping on his head and body 'til he bleeds to death.

Absolutely horrific. One of the worst ways to die, imho.

So this thread is about Obama declaring WAR on Isis.....So does that mean his is gonna give them a couple Hundred Billion dollars and hope they stop being mean?

Lots of useful idiots are helping Isis simply by being liberal.

Originally posted by long pig
Lots of useful idiots are helping Isis simply by being liberal.

This Muslim wrote this about the liberal party

http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...l_idiots_1.html

Apparently, even Muslims are confused as to why libbos go to bat for them when they hate them so much.
Islam enjoys a large and influential ally among the non—Muslims: A new generation of 'Useful Idiots,' the sort of people Lenin identified living in liberal democracies who furthered the work of communism. This new generation of Useful Idiots also lives in liberal democracies, but serves the cause of Islamofascism—another virulent form of totalitarian ideology.

Useful Idiots are na�ve, foolish, ignorant of facts, unrealistically idealistic, dreamers, willfully in denial or deceptive. They hail from the ranks of the chronically unhappy, the anarchists, the aspiring revolutionaries, the neurotics who are at war with life, the disaffected alienated from government, corporations, and just about any and all institutions of society. The Useful Idiot can be a billionaire, a movie star, an academe of renown, a politician, or from any other segment of the population.

Arguably, the most dangerous variant of the Useful Idiot is the 'Politically Correct.' He is the master practitioner of euphemism, hedging, doubletalk, and outright deception.

The Useful Idiot derives satisfaction from being anti—establishment. He finds perverse gratification in aiding the forces that aim to dismantle an existing order, whatever it may be: an order he neither approves of nor he feels he belongs to.

The Useful Idiot is conflicted and dishonest. He fails to look inside himself and discover the causes of his own problems and unhappiness while he readily enlists himself in causes that validate his distorted perception.

Understandably, it is easier to blame others and the outside world than to examine oneself with an eye to self—discovery and self—improvement. Furthermore, criticizing and complaining—liberal practices of the Useful Idiot—require little talent and energy. The Useful Idiot is a great armchair philosopher and 'Monday Morning Quarterback.'

The Useful Idiot is not the same as a person who honestly has a different point of view. A society without honest and open differences of views is a dead society. Critical, different and fresh ideas are the life blood of a living society—the very anathema of autocracies where the official position is sacrosanct.

Even a 'normal' person spends a great deal more energy aiming to fix things out there than working to overcome his own flaws and shortcomings, or contribute positively to the larger society. People don't like to take stock of what they are doing or not doing that is responsible for the conditions they disapprove.

But the Useful Idiot takes things much farther. The Useful Idiot, among other things, is a master practitioner of scapegoating. He assigns blame to others while absolving himself of responsibility, has a long handy list of candidates for blaming anything and everything, and by living a distorted life, he contributes to the ills of society.

The Useful Idiot may even engage in willful misinformation and deception when it suits him. Terms such as 'Political Islam,' or 'Radical Islam,' for instance, are contributions of the Useful Idiot. These terms do not even exist in the native parlance of Islam, simply because they are redundant. Islam, by its very nature and according to its charter—the Quran—is a radical political movement. It is the Useful Idiot who sanitizes Islam and misguides the populace by saying that the 'real Islam' constitutes the main body of the religion; and, that this main body is non—political and moderate.

Regrettably, a large segment of the population goes along with these nonsensical euphemisms depicting Islam because it prefers to believe them. It is less threatening to believe that only a hijacked small segment of Islam is radical or politically driven and that the main body of Islam is indeed moderate and non—political.

But Islam is political to the core. In Islam the mosque and state are one and the same—the mosque is the state. This arrangement goes back to the days of Muhammad himself. Islam is also radical in the extreme. Even the 'moderate' Islam is radical in its beliefs as well as its deeds. Muslims believe that all non—Muslims, bar none, are hellfire bound and well—deserve being maltreated compared to believers.

No radical barbaric act of depravity is unthinkable for Muslims in dealing with others. They have destroyed precious statues of Buddha, leveled sacred monuments of other religions, and bulldozed the cemeteries of non—Muslims—a few examples of their utter extreme contempt toward others.

Muslims are radical even in their intrafaith dealings. Various sects and sub—sects pronounce other sects and sub—sects as heretics worthy of death; women are treated as chattel, deprived of many rights; hands are chopped for stealing even a loaf of bread; sexual violation is punished by stoning, and much much more. These are standard day—to—day ways of the mainstream 'moderate' Muslims living under the stone—age laws of Sharia.

The 'moderate' mainstream of Islam has been outright genocidal from inception. Their own historians record that Ali, the first imam of the Shiite and the son—in—law of Muhammad, with the help of another man, beheaded 700 Jewish men in the presence of the Prophet himself. The Prophet of Allah and his disciples took the murdered men's women and children in slavery. Muslims have been, and continue to be, the most vicious and shameless practitioners of slavery. The slave trade, even today, is a thriving business in some Islamic lands where wealthy, perverted sheikhs purchase children of the poor from traffickers for their sadistic gratification.

Muslims are taught deception and lying in the Quran itself—something that Muhammad practiced during his life whenever he found it expedient. Successive Islamic rulers and leaders have done the same. Khomeini, the founder of the 1979 Iranian Revolution, for instance, rallied the people under the banner of democracy. All along his support for democracy was not a commitment of an honest man, but a ruse. As soon as he gathered the reins of power, Khomeini went after the Useful Idiots of his time with vengeance. These best children of Iran, having been thoroughly deceived and used by the crafty phony populist—religionist, had to flee the country to avoid the fate of tens of thousands who were imprisoned or executed by the double—crossing imam.

Almost three decades after the tragic Islamic Revolution of 1979, the suffocating rule of Islam casts its death—bearing pal over Iranians. A proud people with enviable heritage is being systematically purged of its sense of identity and forced to think and behave like the barbaric and intolerant Muslims. Iranians who had always treated women with equality, for instance, have seen them reduced by the stone—age clergy to sub—human status of Islamic teaching. Any attempt by the women of Iran to counter the misogynist rule of Muhammad's mullahs is mercilessly suppressed. Women are beaten, imprisoned, raped and killed just as men are slaughtered without due process or mercy.

The lesson is clear. Beware of the Useful Idiots who live in liberal democracies. Knowingly or unknowingly, they serve as the greatest volunteer and effective soldiers of Islam. They pave the way for the advancement of Islam and they will assuredly be among the very first victims of Islam as soon as it assumes power.

"Moderate Muslim" is liberals biggest lie so far. They're going to get people hurt.

"No radical barbaric act of depravity is unthinkable for Muslims in dealing with others. They have destroyed precious statues of Buddha, leveled sacred monuments of other religions, and bulldozed the cemeteries of non—Muslims—a few examples of their utter extreme contempt toward others.

Muslims are radical even in their intrafaith dealings. Various sects and sub—sects pronounce other sects and sub—sects as heretics worthy of death; women are treated as chattel, deprived of many rights; hands are chopped for stealing even a loaf of bread; sexual violation is punished by stoning, and much much more. These are standard day—to—day ways of the mainstream 'moderate' Muslims living under the stone—age laws of Sharia."

ISIS executed a Norwegian and a Chinese. They clearly intend to wage a war against the world, a war they will never win. This is a war between the forces of good vs evil.

But we can't beat them so we shouldn't even try.

We should just treat then like interwebs trolls and put them on IGNORE.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]But we can't beat them so we shouldn't even try.

We should just treat then like interwebs trolls and put them on IGNORE. [/B]

Trolling internet trolls is more fun though.

Let's troll ISIS.

True dat.

ISIS released a video threatening NYC. Mayor de Blasio said NYC is not intimidated. 😂 We'll see about that when an actual attack occurs.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]But we can't beat them so we shouldn't even try.

We should just treat then like interwebs trolls and put them on IGNORE. [/B]

Nah, we should try and beat them. And the way to do that is to recruit friends, pull people away from them and be nice enough to them that they tell us were all *their* friends are and how we can get to them, and similar things.

What works, in short.

http://mencomedy.com/bomb-drops-behind-isis-member-as-hes-recording-a-video/

😂

How many troops do people think it would take to wipe ISIS out? I am talking wipe them out without a massive number of casualties?

I'll toss out a number and we can begin from there: 1 million. Too little?

There is only 30-40k ISIS.

But the countries in the area who claim to want to fight ISIS have a combined total of 5 million troops at least so each ISIS solider must be equal to like..100 normal soldiers.

Plus ISIS has access to state of the art tech and weapons, right?

The problem with fighting ISIS is they don't care if they die, they actually prefer it. So you have to fight people who don't care about life or death, vs ones that want to come home and see their wife and kids.

But just to be clear the number of refugee's we are meant to take in actually outnumbers ISIS by over 20,000. I find that interesting.

Not all the refugees are ISIS. I just met a Syrian refugee and he was a nice guy. The problem is, is it worth letting in 65,000 and 100 getting through and then killing a bunch of Americans?