Storm could BFR Cyborg pretty easily, as well. I don't see how that's a feather in Cyborg's cap unless we're assuming he just pops open a boom tube right off the bat...in which case it's just as fair to argue that Ororo has him riding the wind to another continent immediately.
And yes, if Storm is going all out I think she can take out a no-prep Iron Man.
Originally posted by riv6672
I guess we arent reading the same "cyborg gets flash frozen, lightning'd, sonics wont work, BFR is being completely ignored..."posts.-shrug-
bfr could work, but that's a cheap win. i try and debate winners, not bfr's. and i see you SAYING things won't work, and that can be named lowballing. flash frozen won't work? proof? it worked on cl100 colossus. and again, lightning won't work? proof? you can't just say 'that won't work, that won't work' without showing proof then cry lowballing because people say it will. double standards are double standards. darksaint has been providing some rationale at least, and naming some feats to support his stance. that's very different from what you've been doing.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
How is she going to bfr him when he can return to the battlefield immediately
Okay, so now we have an infinite loop of her blowing him away and him booming back. Yay. At least until she fries him.
I'm arguing with the understanding that Cyborg has electrical current coursing through him. If i'm wrong in that, I'll have to reconsider.
Originally posted by riv6672
BFR is on the table, cheap or not, and its a win, like it or not.
Not that he'd need iy; its just being ignored by lowballers.
At this stage Vic is like the DC version of Iron Man. He's not getting.lightning'd, tornadoed, frozen...he's winning.
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with that type of proof i'm convinced. 👆
Originally posted by GroggyGrunt
Okay, so now we have an infinite loop of her blowing him away and him booming back. Yay. At least until she fries him.I'm arguing with the understanding that Cyborg has electrical current coursing through him. If i'm wrong in that, I'll have to reconsider.
He can teleport, she cant. I don't think that's a viable tactic. He also has machine gun energy weapons. Has storm shown the ability to block multiple energy attacks?
Originally posted by carver9
Huh? Tony is a techno...Vic isn't doing a thing to Ironman armor. Ironman has every single advantage over Vic. EVERY.
Vic has hacked apoc ACTIVELY RESISTING him tech, he's assimilated a motherbox. Stop.
Originally posted by Glorificus
Yes. And she can react to a quick-draw against Cyclops' energy blast with her lightning.
That's not what i asked
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Vic has hacked apoc ACTIVELY RESISTING him tech, he's assimilated a motherbox. Stop.That's not what i asked
Do i honestly need to name what Tony has done? If Doom can't hack Tony armor, Cyborg isn't doing it. Then it takes time anyways for Cyborg to do something like that. Time that he doesn't have in a battle against someone that is faster, stronger, more durable, and overall, more powerful. Please stop. Just quit.
Originally posted by carver9
Do i honestly need to name what Tony has done? If Doom can't hack Tony armor, Cyborg isn't doing it. Then it takes time anyways for Cyborg to do something like that. Time that he doesn't have in a battle against someone that is faster, stronger, more durable, and overall, more powerful. Please stop. Just quit.
I think you're overselling doom there. I said he hacked apoc tech active resisting > doom passive hacking. Anywho that's for another thread.
Based on his appearances in nu52 i think vic takes ororo. His durability is top notch, emps wont work on him, and if he closes the gap fast enough he one shots her. Bfr is a definite win plus he has a hf.
i don't really doubt you're right, or that he's close to tony. i'd just like to SEE some feats. storm has a massive history to draw from and, frankly, some very very strong showings. i agree he could win via bfr (i've long been a proponent of eliminating bfr's from these vs matches, btw....) and i think the sonic attack could be a big problem. but she could definitely take some, and in terms of overall power, i still think she has the edge.
Originally posted by riv6672
You read my post wrong. I said just because i pick one character to win doesnt mean i'm lowballing the other.Also, by flawed logic i mean things like asking for proof of sonics affecting a basically human physiology, and saying Storm's immune to sonics because she makes thunder.
Thats just ridiculous claims by people.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
No, vics a technopath do your homework hun