Originally posted by krisblaze
@Cadence, it's starting to look like I'm very upset and wildly lowballing here 😛I'm saying that these things are bad when you're trying to push someone from high herald to trans. The avengers, doom and Hulk are by no means shit. They're just not feats that would catapult someone from high herald to trans. Especially when wins against say the Hulk and Terrax are what landed him in high herald to begin with 🙂
It's cool, I can understand that point of view 🙂
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes, but I felt that it didn't really state whether he was killed and came back or simply never died in the first place.If he never died then he shouldn't have been able to leave the Void in the white hot room.
Meh, that White Hot Room talk reeked more like one of his insane ramblings rather than a legit claim. Like the time when he boasted that he was Galactus. I am guessing this is probably the result of Sentry possibly having an extended consciousness/cosmic awareness which is the result of such a powerset, but his insane drug-addled brain is incapable of comprehending the Cosmological structure of the Marvelverse which is why he goes about making such muddled up claims.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Apparently getting vaped down to the individual atoms does count as a "kill" for the Sentry.Meh, that White Hot Room talk reeked more like one of his insane ramblings rather than a legit claim. Like the time when he boasted that he was Galactus. I am guessing this is probably the result of Sentry possibly having an extended consciousness/cosmic awareness which is the result of such a powerset, but his insane drug-addled brain is incapable of comprehending the Cosmological structure of the Marvelverse which is why he goes about making such muddled up claims.
It was the Void who said he was Galactus not Sentry,
Plus how do you presume Sentry thinking Exitars life energy is in the White Hot Room? It's not because of his drug addled brain as you put it.
Most likely what you said before that about cosmic awareness.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
It was the Void who said he was Galactus not Sentry,Plus how do you presume Sentry thinking Exitars life energy is in the White Hot Room? It's not because of his drug addled brain as you put it.
Most likely what you said before that about cosmic awareness.
Nah, it most likely is. Doesn't matter if his already drug-based brain impairment was made worse by being in isolation within the Sun for a long time, or if it was just the original level of insanity. It definitely seemed and sounded like crazy talk.
My main point is that his broken mind is incapable of properly processing/comprehending the input provided from the grandiose information of something like cosmic awareness.
Originally posted by Epicurus
For the same reason he was making the multitudes of other insane ramblings.Nah, it most likely is. Doesn't matter if his already drug-based brain impairment was made worse by being in isolation within the Sun for a long time, or if it was just the original level of insanity. It definitely seemed and sounded like crazy talk.
My main point is that his broken mind is incapable of properly processing/comprehending the input provided from the grandiose information of something like cosmic awareness.
I would disagree with you, but only for this reason. Since now he hasn't got Agoraphobia he has been elevated to a new level.
He may be able to sense auras from beyond. As much as Robert has been a crazy b**stard in the past I don't think this time it is due to that. I don't think Remender would write Sentry to know what beings reside in such an obscure place of the White Hot Room then attribute it to him being crazy.
He had the ability to sense auras before and now perhaps it has been increased due to him not having Agoraphobia.
Plus when you talk about his insane ramblings as you put ti do you mean him soaking of purging mutants and the like?
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I would disagree with you, but only for this reason. Since now he hasn't got Agoraphobia he has been elevated to a new level.He may be able to sense auras from beyond. As much as Robert has been a crazy b**stard in the past I don't think this time it is due to that. I don't think Remender would write Sentry to know what beings reside in such an obscure place of the White Hot Room then attribute it to him being crazy.
He had the ability to sense auras before and now perhaps it has been increased due to him not having Agoraphobia.
Plus when you talk about his insane ramblings as you put ti do you mean him soaking of purging mutants and the like?
Except the Celestials have never been mentioned to have any connection to the WHR. That's always been predominantly the Phoenix Force's domain. Either Remender sucks at writing his plot, or he has shit knowledge of Marvel canon, or that was just another way to portray the Sentry's tendency to make incoherent statements which made no sense. Or all 3 of the above.
Him purging the mutants, declaring himself the true protector of humanity, the life-in-death shit and all the yadda-yadda. Even with the Death Seed in his body it reeks of cray-cray nonsense.
Originally posted by Epicurus
IIRC, Agoraphobia wasn't the only disorder he showcased. For one, the very existence of the Void points out to a possible MPD/DID diagnosis. And then there are instances of him showing bipolar behavior.Except the Celestials have never been mentioned to have any connection to the WHR. That's always been predominantly the Phoenix Force's domain. Either Remender sucks at writing his plot, or he has shit knowledge of Marvel canon, or that was just another way to portray the Sentry's tendency to make incoherent statements which made no sense. Or all 3 of the above.
Him purging the mutants, declaring himself the true protector of humanity, the life-in-death shit and all the yadda-yadda. Even with the Death Seed in his body it reeks of cray-cray nonsense.
I believe the other disorders he had was Schizophrenia.
There is the context to the things you were speaking of at the bottom.
Him purging mutants and declaring himself the protector of the humanity is the Death Seed. As he is a human the Death Seed has the opposite effect on him. So he drives to preserve humanity and instead eradicate mutants.
The Life in Death statement was talking about a piece in the poem known as the Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
The Ancient Mariner while sailing bumps into 2 figures. One of them is Death and another one is Life-In-Death. That's where he gets that from. Either that or he is stating that he is half alive and half dead since the twins used both Life and Death seeds on them.
Its all from that. When he says.
"It was strange even in a dream to see them dead men rise"
"Her lips were read her looks were free the Nightmare Life-In-Death was she."
These are all from that poem.
Sentry's role in this comic is based off of the Ancient Mariner.
That's why he speaks of paying repentance, the Ancient Mariner shot an Albatross, Sentry killed Loki. Now they both wander the world for eternity telling people of their sins as repentance.
Originally posted by krisblaze
@Cadence, it's starting to look like I'm very upset and wildly lowballing here 😛I'm saying that these things are bad when you're trying to push someone from high herald to trans. The avengers, doom and Hulk are by no means shit. They're just not feats that would catapult someone from high herald to trans. Especially when wins against say the Hulk and Terrax are what landed him in high herald to begin with 🙂
So you really think Void is HH?
He has been a team wrecker since his first appearance. It took nearly all of marvel earth to stop him. Heroes and villain and they had absolutely no chance. That was with classic strange and Reed in the mix. They even knew he was coming.
The only person that has ever stopped Void was himself. Just like every other time void went on a rampage.
Originally posted by bbrem123
So you really think Void is HH?He has been a team wrecker since his first appearance. It took nearly all of marvel earth to stop him. Heroes and villain and they had absolutely no chance. That was with classic strange and Reed in the mix. They even knew he was coming.
The only person that has ever stopped Void was himself. Just like every other time void went on a rampage.
Just like Reed, with weeks of prepping, couldn't stop WWH. Yet it took him 15 minutes to get a cache of weapons that could kill a dozen celestials.
They job.
It was Sentry's story.
'Marvel Earth' is a very loose term for the 5-10 heroes that appear in that comic. It's PIS.
Marvel Earth has a dozen hell-lords, ancient gods and many others, who wouldn't step in if the planet was actually about to be destroyed. For the purpose of a stor, however, it is generally only the main character/flagship character who can stop the coming threat.
This, however, doesn't mean that the Void is somehow more powerful than the entirety of Marvel earth.
Originally posted by krisblazeso you have no real argument? concession excepted. Now we can move on from that annoying topic.
Unless Void is a universal constant, then there's no reason why Reed can't stop him.Just like Reed, with weeks of prepping, couldn't stop WWH. Yet it took him 15 minutes to get a cache of weapons that could kill a dozen celestials.
They job.
It was Sentry's story.
'Marvel Earth' is a very loose term for the 5-10 heroes that appear in that comic. It's PIS.
Marvel Earth has a dozen hell-lords, ancient gods and many others, who wouldn't step in if the planet was actually about to be destroyed. For the purpose of a stor, however, it is generally only the main character/flagship character who can stop the coming threat.
This, however, doesn't mean that the Void is somehow more powerful than the entirety of Marvel earth.
Originally posted by bbrem123
so you have no real argument? concession excepted. Now we can move on from that annoying topic.
My argument is that Jenkins didn't account for the forces of Marvel earth, only a small avengers lineup, spidey and some x-men.
And that within the span of an hour Reed could fetch enough weaponry to destroy a universe.
Originally posted by krisblazeYou have chalked everything involving Sentry up to PIS, CIS, or Jobbing. Pretty said if you ask me.
No real argument?My argument is that Jenkins didn't account for the forces of Marvel earth, only a small avengers lineup, spidey and some x-men.
And that within the span of an hour Reed could fetch enough weaponry to destroy a universe.
Originally posted by bbrem123
You have chalked everything involving Sentry up to PIS, CIS, or Jobbing. Pretty said if you ask me.
Where?
You tried to equate the Void to something every hero on Marvel earth couldn't stop him, and I'm telling you that just Reed alone has planet-galaxy ending shit in his laboratory. Ignoring him, there are still so many forces for good on Marvel earth that racks up to way over Skyfather++