Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
can loki lift the juggs and keep him from touching the ground (can't remember any feats for it). if so loki could smash him against things until he dies or drown himi know comic juggernaut doesnt even need to blink or breath so what about X-Men 3 juggernaut ?
Jugs doest seem to be affected like that and I doubt Loki could get his paws on him. Jugs strength is easily at Thor level.
Loki also doesn't have any sort of telekinetic abilities I'm aware of. He had that little force pulse in Dark World, but I don't remember any legit TK feats. Certainly nothing powerful enough to lift a guy who stepped on an APC and crumpled it like cookie dough.
Even if he could, physical force is clearly not the way to go against Cain, and Loki wouldn't be strong enough anyway.
Even if the casket does fully freeze him, I doubt it'll be long enough before he breaks out for it to count as a win.
And Gungnir if I recall is pretty uber. But the damage it does may only be temporary. I say may because we saw how either Cain is so durable even molecular fusing doesn't work(Kitty trying to phase him into the floor, which should have riddled him with concrete in his body), or he just heals so damn fast it's instant.
And his HF is powerful enough to expel foreign objects from his body. But it seems to be the former as he didn't even show any pain when she phased him. In the deleted scenes he did show that level of healing though, even beyond Wolverine.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
True but King made a good point is Heimdall could do it, Jugg could easily. I think Gungir might do some damage though. That shit was wicked.
Yes but you have to consider that Loki only exposed Heimdall to the casket for a short time. Once immobile, Loki left Heimdall alone. Now if Loki kept pointing that casket at Juggs over a prolonged period of time, I'm betting that it will freeze him enough to just shatter him.
Originally posted by KingD19If I remember correctly he only dented the top of it. BReaking out of the concrete was good as well. Still nothing even remotely approaching Thor or Hulk in terms of strength. I still think Loki would give him a run for his money if not out right beat him especially with his weapons.
His best feat is stepping on a 20+ ton APC and crumpling it as a side effect.
Originally posted by KingD19
Either he'll be completely unhurt. Or he'll heal in moments. Not sure how that will help Loki any.
Do we have proof of his supposedly super healing capabilities? And when you have weapons made to kill and hurt Asgardians, Dark Elves, Frost Giants etc... I think it's a bit of a stretch to simply claim Juggs will be unhurt without any proof. Considering that Asgardians have shown to be bullet proof and all.