The Avengers -Vs- Superman

Started by DARTH POWER15 pages
DARTH POWER Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
You should call the writer and complain about it. When narration compares something to big bang and the results are more like of a grenade, we are supposed to take that explosion as big bang?

😬

Or maybe you're the one who should ring the writer and artist and complain they've not properly shown the effects of a Big Bang. Explain to them you're a fanatic comic book fan who expects to see the Universe exploding when they show the force of a Big Bang.

It's most likely the Mjolnir's took the whole blast themselves? But either way the shockwave resonated throughout the cosmos LOL. So a blast that can only shatter windows can be felt throughout the cosmos? It's obviously the typical inconsistent crap for which they can't be bothered portraying it's full effects properly.

But at least they explained (in the very scan you gave) that the effects of the mystical forces of Mjolnir does not necessarily follow the normal rules of science.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I accept plenty of Thor's strength feats. Just not in the same way Thor fans pretend.

Incorrect on both point. But that's like a habit for you now.

Heh, anything disputing the ambiguous showings from Thor is now lowballing? My, my, aren't thorbags insecure? Why don't you explain to me the strength feats of Thor.

Oh really? So exactly which Herald level feats of Thor do you accept? This ought to be good.

You have a reputation of having double standards when it comes to Thor feats compared to Superman feats. You also have a reputation of going to stupendous lengths to attempt to deny/lowball Thor feats whilst Praising similar level feats of Superman. Basically it's well known on these boards that your opinion isn't a very Objective one. Not by a long shot.

What's ambiguous? Feats are on a cosmic scale- You reject them on the basis of not being Quantified. Feats are clearly Quantified even by the narrator- You reject them as Hyperbole. Similar feats performed by Superman-

riv6672 Senior Member

How has this broken down to Thor vs Superman one on one in a team fight?

DARTH POWER Senior Member

Started with this s*** on page 4:

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
This is somehwat difficult.

The characters noted for their strength will have definitive lifiting feats to form an easier gauge.

An average for a High Herald in strength should be slighlty above Thor.

The Odinson marks a perfect gatekeeper for that entry.

Superman's average would be anyone that easily overpowers Thor. And as pre-emptive strike, Banner doesn't accomplish this until he rages up against the Blonde Whore.

And this on page 5:

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
At their best, yes.

Superman would overwhelm Thor the same way the Hulk does physically when he reaches" [B]Superman level strength! 😎 " [/B]

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Based on what?

The Midgard Serpent is the pinnacle, what else would you point to?

Let me guess, you'll say it doesn't matter and wait for someone else to snipe and then post LOL.

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Started with this s*** on page 4:

And this on page 5:

Oh! Okay, i remember blowing those posts off as the usual claptrap. I swear some folks derail threads on purpose, just so they can have the exact same debates that are going on in a dozen other threads.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Give me a criteria. He's overpowered top tiers in the past.
In pure strength lock? Like who?

That's a pretty dumb stance. The same can be said for any character. Unless it was specified to be a different Midgard Serpent or it was being affected negatively in the story, it's the same Midgard Serpent.
Written by a different writer. The serpent wasn't that big in the story. Simple as that.
It is an incredibly powerful mythical beast. The force it was applying to earth was evident from the natural disasters it was causing, ethereal coil or not. It is still a tremendous strength feat.
It was due to the nature of the void between earth and asgard. Superman crushed planets in his palm when he and Orion fought S'ivaa. Just like that.

S

mh.. We see him with his torso still up when her head was up.
Yeah, sure.
Next page has him flat on his face as the force of gravitron seemed to go on.
And Sif still looks as if nothing happened to her.
Then he was the only one to out muscle the force exerted by the gravitron.
I would hope that too. Sif is class 30.
Crazier still is he had the strength to throw Mjolnir smashing the gravitron.

Crazier still is that Thor was the explosion of an asteroid/planetoid was stated to be fatal for Thor in the same issue. Apparently planetoids can sustain infinite gravity and the explosion can kill someone able to endure infinite weight.

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This doesn't deserve a response.
Concession accepted.

Bill's people lived in the core of a galaxy. The highest concentration of stars in a galaxy are always found closer towards the core of a galaxy. 🙁

facepalm

Just look at the "stars" and the chariot of Thor. They look about the same size.

And if that's not enough, here is Thor saying Bill to stay at one corner of the portal and he would go to other corner of the portal.

And on the very next page he reaches there calling Bill to throw stormbreaker.

Now either Thor's chariot is bigger than stars and thor can call BRB from across stars distance or you've been leaving a lot of context behind as usual.

And no, he didn't cross the portal. He couldn't.

That's why I laugh at you Thorbags. You leave so much context that its simply hilarious.

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Yeah, you should be embarrassed. One cursory glance at the comic and its clear that the "feat" is a non "feat".

riv6672 Senior Member

Again, SO not the topic.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Or maybe you're the one who should ring the writer and artist and complain they've not properly shown the effects of a Big Bang. Explain to them you're a fanatic comic book fan who expects to see the Universe exploding when they show the force of a Big Bang.
Why would I? I simply call it what it is. A hyperbole.

And yes, its a big bang when universe explodes. I can show you how a big bang looks like in comics if you want.

It's most likely the Mjolnir's took the whole blast themselves?
Are you like carver or what?
But either way the shockwave resonated throughout the cosmos LOL.
Power Ring's signal was shown to be multiversal when he died. So what?
So a blast that can only shatter windows can be felt throughout the cosmos?
Yes. As shown in the comic.
It's obviously the typical inconsistent crap for which they can't be bothered portraying it's full effects properly.
Or that it was a mystical domino effect. But that would hurt your feelings, amirite?

But at least they explained (in the very scan you gave) that the effects of the mystical forces of Mjolnir does not necessarily follow the normal rules of science.
So? Are you suggesting two mjolnirs can produce a big bang?

facepalm

Oh really? So exactly which Herald level feats of Thor do you accept? This ought to be good.
Oneshotting surfer is better than most of what you've cried over.

You have a reputation of having double standards when it comes to Thor feats compared to Superman feats.
😂

Sour grapes and all that stuff.

You also have a reputation of going to stupendous lengths to attempt to deny/lowball Thor feats whilst Praising similar level feats of Superman. Basically it's well known on these boards that your opinion isn't a very Objective one. Not by a long shot.
Got any example of that? It wouldn't be hard to find for you, right?

What's ambiguous? Feats are on a cosmic scale- You reject them on the basis of not being Quantified.
I don't reject that. I just don't consider them as valid strength feats.
Feats are clearly Quantified even by the narrator- You reject them as Hyperbole. Similar feats performed by Superman-
Like?

riv6672 Senior Member

For an example of abhi's...creativity, the interpretation of Black Adam/Superman fight in this thread...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=601964&pagenumber=10#post14899700

...is pretty good.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
In pure strength lock? Like who?

Sure he has. Hulk, Kurse, etc...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Written by a different writer. The serpent wasn't that big in the story. Simple as that. It was due to the nature of the void between earth and asgard. Superman crushed planets in his palm when he and Orion fought S'ivaa. Just like that.
Ermm.. Even in his Fin Fang Foom disguise he weighed far far more than the size he was displaying. Come on man... 🙁

Originally posted by abhilegend

S Yeah, sure. And Sif still looks as if nothing happened to her. I would hope that too. Sif is class 30.

Crazier still is that Thor was the explosion of an asteroid/planetoid was stated to be fatal for Thor in the same issue. Apparently planetoids can sustain infinite gravity and the explosion can kill someone able to endure infinite weight.

😬
Concession accepted.


She was pinned like the rest. Thor over came it. Period.

Really you're using that as a basis to lowball the feat? Gravity would be increased all through the planetoid wouldn't it?
😂

What, you thought he should have fallen through the planetoid?
🙁

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend

Just look at the "stars" and the chariot of Thor. They look about the same size.

http://i.imgur.com/yZu5bTZ.jpg

And if that's not enough, here is Thor saying Bill to stay at one corner of the portal and he would go to other corner of the portal.

http://i.imgur.com/GJgSNql.jpg

And on the very next page he reaches there calling Bill to throw stormbreaker.

http://i.imgur.com/Jru8zOr.jpg

Now either Thor's chariot is bigger than stars and thor can call BRB from across stars distance or you've been leaving a lot of context behind as usual.

And no, he didn't cross the portal. He couldn't.

http://i.imgur.com/QTxi7wG.jpg

That's why I laugh at you Thorbags. You leave so much context that its simply hilarious.
Yeah, you should be embarrassed. One cursory glance at the comic and its clear that the "feat" is a non "feat".


Oh god no... I'm going to enjoy this...

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Ever heard artistic license? These feats are of a grand scale. You have to use some common sense when viewing them on a comic book page. The artists almost always have leeway when portraying such grandiose feats. Of course you completely throw that out in your effort to lowball. I swear if I had a nickel for every time you put your foot in your mouth I'd be a rich man.

With your ridiculous logic all of these other panels would be scrapped.

GL and Supes turned earth sized.

My, that's a mighty big chain you have.

Looks like Thor grew in size!

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111158055/3938864-uncanny+avengers+021-013.jpg

😂

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sure he has. Hulk, Kurse, etc...
He overpowered them?

Ermm.. Even in his Fin Fang Foom disguise he weighed far far more than the size he was displaying. Come on man... 🙁
Where thor could barely lift one of his feet in Thor 379 and couldn't lift it at all in Thor annual 5?

She was pinned like the rest. Thor over came it. Period.
So? She is class 30.

Really you're using that as a basis to lowball the feat? Gravity would be increased all through the planetoid wouldn't it?
😂
That was after the ray gun was destroyed and Sif etc could move freely.

What, you thought he should have fallen through the planetoid?
🙁
Well I would think "infinity enduring" Thor could at least tank an asteroid exploding. But alas, the narration said he'd die if he stayed there. Poor Thor!!!!!

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ever heard artistic license? These feats are of a grand scale.
Yeah, no. Nice try though.
You have to use some common sense when viewing them on a comic book page. The artists almost always have leeway when portraying such grandiose feats. Of course you completely throw that out in your effort to lowball. I swear if I had a nickel for every time you put your foot in your mouth I'd be a rich man.
When they jump over and reach one side from another, call me.

With your ridiculous logic all of these other panels would be scrapped.

GL and Supes turned earth sized.

My, that's a mighty big chain you have.

Looks like Thor grew in size!

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111158055/3938864-uncanny+avengers+021-013.jpg

😂

And if that's not enough, here is Thor saying Bill to stay at one corner of the portal and he would go to other corner of the portal.

http://i.imgur.com/GJgSNql.jpg

And on the very next page he reaches there calling Bill to throw stormbreaker.

http://i.imgur.com/GJgSNql.jpg

Now either Thor's chariot is bigger than stars and thor can call BRB from across stars distance or you've been leaving a lot of context behind as usual.

And no, he didn't cross the portal. He couldn't.

http://i.imgur.com/QTxi7wG.jpg

Re-posted for you to read. When these guys jump over and reach the other side of the planet, call me. As it is, the size comparison is perfectly comparable to what the distance Thor and BRB were at.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
He overpowered them?
Yes.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Where thor could barely lift one of his feet in Thor 379 and couldn't lift it at all in Thor annual 5?

Yes. Don't know about annual #5, but a young Thor partially lifted it in #272.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So? She is class 30.

That was after the ray gun was destroyed and Sif etc could move freely.

Well I would think "infinity enduring" Thor could at least tank an asteroid exploding. But alas, the narration said he'd die if he stayed there. Poor Thor!!!!!


I like how you start going off tangent when you have no proper rebuttal.

And then resort to lowballing. :/

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes.
Overpowered Kurse and Hulk? Are you drinking or something?

Yes. Don't know about annual #5, but a young Thor partially lifted it in #272.
Yeah, just one paw as he did in Thor 379.

I like how you start going off tangent when you have no proper rebuttal.

And then resort to lowballing. :/

Who is posting random scans? And concession accepted.

riv6672 Senior Member

I havent seen abhi get owned like this since Hero Chat went down.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by riv6672
I havent seen abhi get owned like this since Hero Chat went down.

Just wait it gets worse....

😈

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by riv6672
I havent seen abhi get owned like this since Hero Chat went down.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Just wait it gets worse....

😈


LOL. Sour grapes and all that shit.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by riv6672
I havent seen abhi get owned like this since Hero Chat went down.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Just wait it gets worse....

😈


LOL. Sour grapes and all that shit.

krisblaze Senior Member

Did Abhi come from Herochat?