Originally posted by quanchi112
Shut up, fanboy. Bride kills show version. Cry more, brownie.
Oberyn's fight with Ser Gregor took place in A Storm of Crows, not A Game of Thrones.
Either way, Oberyn toyed with Gregor, and it wasn't the Manticore Venom (spiked with sorcery) that rendered him barely incapacitated either. It was blood-loss and Oberyn's spear that had pierced his belly and pinned him to the ground that did.
Seeing how the bride is a faster, more hard-hitting and (presumably) uses superior steel she shouldn't have any issues dealing with Gregor.
Originally posted by Astner
Oberyn's fight with Ser Gregor took place in A Storm of Crows, not A Game of Thrones.
I don't think anyone said otherwise.
Either way, Oberyn toyed with Gregor, and it wasn't the Manticore Venom (spiked with sorcery) that rendered him barely incapacitated either. It was blood-loss and Oberyn's spear that had pierced his belly and pinned him to the ground that did.Seeing how the bride is a faster, more hard-hitting and (presumably) uses superior steel she shouldn't have any issues dealing with Gregor.
He was still strong enough to literally crush Oberyn's skull despite the blood loss and being pinned.
Even in this state he's much stronger than The Bride. 👆
Oberyn at one point also had to throw his spear aside or else he would die (Once Gregor powered through and took away Oberyn's advantage of range), with Oberyn surviving because of his shield (Which Uma doesn't have), and because Gregor in a rage grew distracted and killed a helpless bystander (This could happen I guess).
Oberyn won by using a weapon with greater reach than Gregor's (Which Uma doesn't have), by blinding him with the sun (Which she can't do as easily), and by having the stamina to fight him for an extended period of time without being hit (Which she hasn't shown, to my recollection). He also had a weapon that is actually built for stabbing, as opposed to cutting.
Is she faster and stronger than Oberyn? Could be. Superior steel? Maybe. She also uses a weapon that can't cut through chainmail effectively, much less plate as thick as Gregor's.
This is Gregor's fight to lose. He's fighting a much weaker, more easily damaged foe who has to get well within his reach to so much as scratch his armour.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Oberyn at one point also had to throw his spear aside or else he would die (Once Gregor powered through and took away Oberyn's advantage of range), with Oberyn surviving because of his shield (Which Uma doesn't have),
You're also forgetting that the Bride's agility and perception well crossed over into what would be considered super-human. Oberyn's, in comparison, was only human.
Originally posted by NemeBro
and because Gregor in a rage grew distracted and killed a helpless bystander (This could happen I guess).
Originally posted by NemeBro
Oberyn won by using a weapon with greater reach than Gregor's (Which Uma doesn't have), by blinding him with the sun (Which she can't do as easily),
Originally posted by NemeBro
She also uses a weapon that can't cut through chainmail effectively, much less plate as thick as Gregor's.
But even if you want to ignore all that, Gregor's visor had a slit in it that allowed for sight, and the Bride was quick and precise enough to catch a sword in mid-swing in its sheath.
Originally posted by NemeBro
This is Gregor's fight to lose.
Originally posted by NemeBro
and by having the stamina to fight him for an extended period of time without being hit (Which she hasn't shown, to my recollection).
But yeah, Gregor's sheer strength, size and armor give him an almost unfair advantage in this fight.
Originally posted by Epicurus
But yeah, Gregor's sheer strength, size and armor give him an almost unfair advantage in this fight.
Originally posted by Epicurus
I think you don't know what that phrase means.
Originally posted by AstnerI don't have time at the moment to respond to your long post but I have enough time to expose you as a liar at least.
Since "... he would've had better luck cutting of the wings of a fly," than hitting Oberyn he'd have no chance against the Birde.
That quote was in reference to Gregor cutting the head off Oberyn's spear. A far smaller, more maneuverable, and faster target than the Bride. Who has nothing to keep Gregor off of her, with the exception of her little katana.
Originally posted by Astner
Since "... he would've had better luck cutting of the wings of a fly," than hitting Oberyn he'd have no chance against the Birde.
Even if it is literally true as pertains Oberyn's reaction time and reflexes, I am pretty sure it's a rhetorical hyperbole as I doubt that most ordinary athletic humans have fly-level reflexes.
Originally posted by Astner
I'm not a big Wrestling guy and so naturally I thought it was a typo.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't have time at the moment to respond to your long post but I have enough time to expose you as a liar at least.That quote was in reference to Gregor cutting the head off Oberyn's spear. A far smaller, more maneuverable, and faster target than the Bride. Who has nothing to keep Gregor off of her, with the exception of her little katana.
Either way, Oberyn had no issues dodging Gregor's blows while occasionally smacking him with his spear and taunting him while waiting for a confession.
Even though the Gregor's plate was pierced by a spear—twice in one blow considering how it with through the front-, the body, and the back of the armor as well a good bit into the ground—there are at least three weak spots. The slit in the visor, the back of the knee and the arm pit, the latter two being protected by chain mail and boiled leather.