Odin defeated his brother Clor who is the God of Hate and feeds off it, Odin cut him off from the source of his power and this was Odin without the Odinforce. Odin w/Odinforce is too damn powerful, and too damn versatile Odin can amp beyond Injustice SM period to keep on discussion this retarded and fanboyism at it highest. Odin by feats sh** all over Marvel hierarchy list with ease, Odin defeated hius evil self Infinity that was siphion power from the cosmic entity Infinity, his dark self was destroying galaxies just by extended his hand and Odin defeated him with greatest of ease undid the damage with a thought.
Gathnet and Mogo got nothing on Odin let alone SA Odin, not all alternate reality beings are same in power and ability and that's a fact.
Originally posted by Star428
I'm a "die-hard" Superman fan and I sure as Hell don't think Superman could beat the Beyonder. About this matchup, I'm not so sure as I haven't read the story but one-shotting a being like Ganthet seems like a helluva feat though.Also, Thanos didn't lose to Odin, iirc. He stalemated him.
A feat less Ganthet that got killed by the sun.
Originally posted by carver9
A feat less Ganthet that got killed by the sun.
When taking alternate relaities into account is accurate to assume a parallel between their main stream counterparts unless otherwise indicated. Injustice has demonstrated a majority of the characters being precisely like their mainstream counterparts, and it would be accurate to do so for Ganthet as well.
Ganthet is not featless throughout the Injustice run, he has the following feats.
1. Effortlessly One shotted Hal Jordan, Sinestro, and 3 yellow Lanterns simultaneously.
2. Effortlessly Incinerated hundreds of yellow lanterns in space with the wave of his hand
3. Effortlessly one shotted Shazam with the wave of his index finger while whispering "Shh".
4. Effortlessly one shotted Superman (prior to yellow ring upgrade) with the wave of his hand.
Post of Superman gaining a yellow lantern ring he was able to effortlessly kill a blood thirsted Ganthet who tried to kill him (stated on panel), and killed Mogo simultaneously.
Originally posted by Board Walker
When taking alternate relaities into account is accurate to assume a parallel between their main stream counterparts unless otherwise indicated. Injustice has demonstrated a majority of the characters being precisely like their mainstream counterparts, and it would be accurate to do so for Ganthet as well.Ganthet is not featless throughout the Injustice run, he has the following feats.
1. Effortlessly One shotted Hal Jordan, Sinestro, and 3 yellow Lanterns simultaneously.
2. Effortlessly Incinerated hundreds of yellow lanterns in space with the wave of his hand
3. Effortlessly one shotted Shazam with the wave of his index finger while whispering "Shh".
4. Effortlessly one shotted Superman (prior to yellow ring upgrade) with the wave of his hand.Post of Superman gaining a yellow lantern ring he was able to effortlessly kill a blood thirsted Ganthet who tried to kill him (stated on panel), and killed Mogo simultaneously.
So what does that make Captain Atom who beat this same version of Superman with a couple of blows?
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-09-17-08-55-31_zpsc7a203bd.png.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-09-17-08-55-41_zps68567522.png.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-10-08-14-54-52_zps7f1fa183.png.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-10-08-14-55-00_zps49732b16.png.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-10-08-14-55-21_zpsa1b4e993.png.html
Is Captain Atom abstract as well? Also, per forum rules, alternate reality characters doesn't share fts with the real deal. They have their own fts and the characters are usually different power wise.
The Lanterns are ft less. Sinestro doesn't have any durability fts to cling too and Hal doesn't either. So again, provide some evidence or stop.
Originally posted by carver9
So what does that make Captain Atom who beat this same version of Superman with a couple of blows?http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-09-17-08-55-31_zpsc7a203bd.png.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-09-17-08-55-41_zps68567522.png.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-10-08-14-54-52_zps7f1fa183.png.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-10-08-14-55-00_zps49732b16.png.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-10-08-14-55-21_zpsa1b4e993.png.htmlIs Captain Atom abstract as well? Also, per forum rules, alternate reality characters doesn't share fts with the real deal. They have their own fts and the characters are usually different power wise.
The Lanterns are ft less. Sinestro doesn't have any durability fts to cling too and Hal doesn't either. So again, provide some evidence or stop.
Superman has a plethora of feats through out the injustice run to put him at high herald, and Captain Atom beating him down solidifies himself at or above high herald.
I already explained why Ganthet is skyfather because of his feats, and why SUperman is above skyfather because of his domination of ganthet who is skyfather by feats.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Superman has a plethora of feats through out the injustice run to put him at high herald, and Captain Atom beating him down solidifies himself at or above high herald.I already explained why Ganthet is skyfather because of his feats, and why SUperman is above skyfather because of his domination of ganthet who is skyfather by feats.
But your claims are false though. He took out some ft less characters. That's not how we debate here. Then he died by being pushed into the sun...something that the lowest of Heralds could survive. Overall, your argument is terrible.
Also, lol at Cap Atom being above Herald level.
Ok, to prevent some damage done by Carvers lies.
First Superman showed that he is above everyone on Earth, even Captain Atom during the Apokolips invasion where he, with speed that made everyone else sans Flash look like in a time freeze, killed every single Parademon on earth. The Parademons were everywhere and he speedblitzed them while every other hero was unable to fend them off and Captain Atom could only safe or hold them back in one city. This is already a Trans feat.
Captain Atom was first in the same position like Superman, Supes hand at CA throat.
http://a3.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Publication6/v4/90/94/95/90949505-d141-45b9-c539-ad13cef668c8/PAGE_004.480x480-75.jpg
Superman was there to protect his parents and the first hit CA got was a suckerpunch. We see that CA is at some point now in the reverse position but the fight is far from over when WW interfers. How the fight would have gone is at best a guess.
BTW we see that Superman breaks CA wrist or crunches it.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/252c9b336abf988f06377fc7782d0b60/tumblr_mrufa689611qi0dp3o2_1280.jpg
CA then flies Superman into orbit because CA can't hold all this power and he wants to take Superman with him. So when all of CA power is released at once to kill Superman it does nothing but hurt him and ko him. We know from this that all of CA power, everything he has is merely enough to ko this Superman but the price for this feat is ultimately death.
As for the Alfred fight. Carver, intentionally, left out the fact that Alfred took a pill that gave him Supermans powers AND most of all that Superman just tanked the whole power of CA (who died in the process) was hurt and even koed by this explosion, so he was severly weakened after surviving somthing that almost killed WW (who was nowhere near the center of the explosion).
So yes, he is above CA and he is HH or higher.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Prof T.C. McAbe is truly a good poster
😂
He didn't prove a thing. Cap owned Supes and had a clear advantage against him in the fight. Even when Supes broke his arm, he still couldn't get out of Cap's grip.
There's no proof that Superman was weakened when he faced Alfred...especially when the sun was beaming on him beforehand.
A speed ft doesn't make a character trans tier.
Originally posted by carver9
😂He didn't prove a thing. Cap owned Supes and had a clear advantage against him in the fight. Even when Supes broke his arm, he still couldn't get out of Cap's grip.
There's no proof that Superman was weakened when he faced Alfred...especially when the sun was beaming on him beforehand.
A speed ft doesn't make a character trans tier.
Laugh as much as you want. You lowballing knows no bounds and you ar a liar.
CA with all his power and sacrifice was just able to ko Superman. He died in the process. Before that the fight was far from over. Fact.
Alfred with Supermans powers. Sure, he tanked a point blank explosion of CA, all the power of CA in the face, was koed, bloodied, blood in his eyes. He woke up went asap to Diana who was almost killed by just the a bit of said explosion, killed Green Arrow and went after Batman, when he faced Bats he was still far from healed, you see all the scratches etc. But yeah, this blast healed instantly and he was to 100% power, welcome to Carter lowball world. The fight against Alfred was everything but a low feat. Alfred + Supermans powers vs Superman who tanked and survived what other heralds couldn't. Good job Carver at lowballing, never change.
Speed and power output. He killed all the Parademons.
Originally posted by Star428That wasnt a stalemate 😆
I'm a "die-hard" Superman fan and I sure as Hell don't think Superman could beat the Beyonder. About this matchup, I'm not so sure as I haven't read the story but one-shotting a being like Ganthet seems like a helluva feat though.Also, Thanos didn't lose to Odin, iirc. He stalemated him.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Ok, to prevent some damage done by Carvers lies.First Superman showed that he is above everyone on Earth, even Captain Atom during the Apokolips invasion where he, with speed that made everyone else sans Flash look like in a time freeze, killed every single Parademon on earth. The Parademons were everywhere and he speedblitzed them while every other hero was unable to fend them off and Captain Atom could only safe or hold them back in one city. This is already a Trans feat.
Captain Atom was first in the same position like Superman, Supes hand at CA throat.
http://a3.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Publication6/v4/90/94/95/90949505-d141-45b9-c539-ad13cef668c8/PAGE_004.480x480-75.jpg
Superman was there to protect his parents and the first hit CA got was a suckerpunch. We see that CA is at some point now in the reverse position but the fight is far from over when WW interfers. How the fight would have gone is at best a guess.
BTW we see that Superman breaks CA wrist or crunches it.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/252c9b336abf988f06377fc7782d0b60/tumblr_mrufa689611qi0dp3o2_1280.jpg
CA then flies Superman into orbit because CA can't hold all this power and he wants to take Superman with him. So when all of CA power is released at once to kill Superman it does nothing but hurt him and ko him. We know from this that all of CA power, everything he has is merely enough to ko this Superman but the price for this feat is ultimately death.As for the Alfred fight. Carver, intentionally, left out the fact that Alfred took a pill that gave him Supermans powers AND most of all that Superman just tanked the whole power of CA (who died in the process) was hurt and even koed by this explosion, so he was severly weakened after surviving somthing that almost killed WW (who was nowhere near the center of the explosion).
So yes, he is above CA and he is HH or higher.
Carver was just going over what was posted in the ownage thread and formed an opinion. I highly doubt that he read these comics.
BTW, good post. 👆
Reading into that first scan, where superman is holding Captain Atom knocked out, scenes like that usually means that they battled it out and one of them clearly lost, in this case Captain Atom.
Originally posted by carver9
😂He didn't prove a thing. Cap owned Supes and had a clear advantage against him in the fight. Even when Supes broke his arm, he still couldn't get out of Cap's grip.
There's no proof that Superman was weakened when he faced Alfred...especially when the sun was beaming on him beforehand.
A speed ft doesn't make a character trans tier.
Why is superman's suit tattered before alfred headbutted him?