But that is exactly what Golden is. GOP shitbag Limbaugh is using Golden's dumbassery as a black poster boy to make it appear that his far-right-wing views are actually beneficial to blacks, although anybody black person with a brain (or well....anybody) can tell what misinformed BS propaganda it is.
There seems to be a rule, perhaps a rule applicable generally, but definitely a rule that's applicable to Republicans and Fox News. When they accuse someone of doing something wrong, you can be certain, that they are actually doing the very same thing they accused people of. Prominent examples are "making everything about race", "receiving government subsidies" and "playing the victim".
Yep, that's their MO. Obstruct progress and blame Obama when the public asks for answers. At this point though, with all the info we can access instantly via electronics, there should be a massive decrease in uninformed citizens but sadly, out of infamous US lethargy I guess, there are still large portions of middle-class/lower-class populations who support the GOP, not realizing they are digging their own graves.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Yep, that's their MO. Obstruct progress and blame Obama when the public asks for answers. At this point though, with all the info we can access instantly via electronics, there should be a massive decrease in uninformed citizens but sadly, out of infamous US lethargy I guess, there are still large portions of middle-class/lower-class populations who support the GOP, not realizing they are digging their own graves.
Sadly this isn't one issue to blame Obama out, it actually has nothing to do with Obama, thinking this only shows you ignorance, and you are still blinded but democratic>republican war. You ignorance to the real issue is fuel by a political feud and game you actually don't understand. When you move out of the house, get a degree, go to work, pay taxes. You will have a clue about whats going on instead of internet chest beating.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Sadly this isn't one issue to blame Obama out, it actually has nothing to do with Obama, thinking this only shows you ignorance, and you are still blinded but democratic>republican war. You ignorance to the real issue is fuel by a political feud and game you actually don't understand. When you move out of the house, get a degree, go to work, pay taxes. You will have a clue about whats going on instead of internet chest beating.
This isn't even your race. No way in hell do you have more authority on the subject of African-American affairs than me. Also I notice you haven't replied to the my post about the hypocrisy of Golden stating he has an agenda that has nothing to do with partisan politics when Rush Limbaugh is using him as a mouthpiece to bash liberals (ie democrats). Do you agree Golden is a hypocrite?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes absolutely you do. Your view points are invalid because you have no clue how it is. You don't work here, you don't live here, you know a few people online from here, thats it.
That is a ridiculous POV. And you would reject it if it came to any other place (can you not know anything valid about Canada, the Phillipines, Iraq?).
I do know many people that live in the United States and I follow US news and culture closely. That you have a small, additional, anecdotal data point due to living in the US really carries very little weight.
At any rate, I have lived in the United States in the past as well.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Your view points are invalid because you have no clue how it is. You don't work here, you don't live here, you know a few people online from here, thats it.
The same could be said about your opinion of blacks. Having 4 black friends does not make you an expert on the issues of every member of the ethnicity.
Originally posted by Lestov16
The same could be said about your opinion of blacks. Having 4 black friends does not make you an expert on the issues of every member of the ethnicity.
I have 2 cousin's that are mixed race, but I guess their opinion doesn't count either right? When did I say I was an expert, we talking about the issues and all you can talk about is republican and democrats because you have been blinded to think that's the only problem.
Originally posted by Lestov16
The same could be said about your opinion of blacks. Having 4 black friends does not make you an expert on the issues of every member of the ethnicity.
I think his point that he lives here, was born here, he works here (and with black people), and knows many of them that live here, his viewpoint is much more valid than Marius' but perhaps he does not believe it is greater than yours (ask him).
Dave Chapell did a funny little gameshow on his program based on Jeopardy. The person who won it was a writer for his show who was the crackerest honkey I have ever seen. He was more of an "expert" on the arbitrary 'black culture' questions than any of the black contestants. That's an example of how someone can know more about "black stuff" or "Italian stuff", if you will. It is silly, obviously, so you can disregard it.
The point is, you do not have to be a member of a particular race to be an expert or even highly knowledgeable of the issues that race faces. Granted, that does not mean they have "walked in your shoes" so they cannot directly relate to the feelings of racism that the black community legitimately STILL endures.
Basically, what I'm getting at is it possible for Bardock42 to be more familiar with black culture, their challenges, and the racism that they face than a member of the black community. You don't have to be black to be intimately familiar with black issues, is what I'm getting at.
TE may very well be acutely aware of the same things you are, perhaps more, perhaps less, by mere association and education of the issues his friends endure (and by paying attention in college if his degree focuses on these things).
Edit - I see what you mean, now. You said, "...of every member of the ethnicity." Yes, that's true. But the same is true for almost every person of that same ethnicity, though. I would be willing to bet that no person exists , inside or outside of a particular ethnicity, that is aware of every issue faced by that particular ethnicity. We are approaching a level of omniscience with talk like that.
Originally posted by Lestov16
This isn't even your race. No way in hell do you have more authority on the subject of African-American affairs than me. Also I notice you haven't replied to the my post about the hypocrisy of Golden stating he has an agenda that has nothing to do with partisan politics when Rush Limbaugh is using him as a mouthpiece to bash liberals (ie democrats). Do you agree Golden is a hypocrite?
I don't care to discuss Rush because I don't listen to rush. I'm more interested in what he had to say because I saw truth and no he is not a hypocrite.
Edit: I'll have you know I actually favor most democratic issues, however the current "Democratic Party" has been taking over by radicals, I used to support Obama even.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I think his point that he lives here, was born here, he works here (and with black people), and knows many of them that live here, his viewpoint is much more valid than Marius' but perhaps he does not believe it is greater than yours (ask him).Dave Chapell did a funny little gameshow on his program based on Jeopardy. The person who won it was a writer for his show who was the crackerest honkey I have ever seen. He was more of an "expert" on the arbitrary 'black culture' questions than any of the black contestants. That's an example of how someone can know more about "black stuff" or "Italian stuff", if you will. It is silly, obviously, so you can disregard it.
The point is, you do not have to be a member of a particular race to be an expert or even highly knowledgeable of the issues that race faces. Granted, that does not mean they have "walked in your shoes" so they cannot directly relate to the feelings of racism that the black community legitimately STILL endures.
Basically, what I'm getting at is it possible for Bardock42 to be more familiar with black culture, their challenges, and the racism that they face than a member of the black community. You don't have to be black to be intimately familiar with black issues, is what I'm getting at.
TE may very well be acutely aware of the same things you are, perhaps more, perhaps less, by mere association and education of the issues his friends endure (and by paying attention in college if his degree focuses on these things).
Edit - I see what you mean, now. You said, "...of every member of the ethnicity." Yes, that's true. But the same is true for almost every person of that same ethnicity, though. I would be willing to bet that no person exists , inside or outside of a particular ethnicity, that is aware of every issue faced by that particular ethnicity. We are approaching a level of omniscience with talk like that.
You always impress me with you viewpoints and able to see through the bullshit people try and make seem is there but actaully isn't.
+1
Look TI, if you want to make critiques of the black community, that's fine, but don't use the words of a Limbaugh pawn to support your argument because Limbaugh and his cronies persistently produce BS GOP propaganda, which obviously makes Golden's non-partisan talk hypocritical BS and thus makes his entire stance untrustworthy and scrutinizible.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I don't care to discuss Rush because I don't listen to rush. I'm more interested in what he had to say because I saw truth and no he is not a hypocrite.Edit: I'll have you know I actually favor most democratic issues, however the current "Democratic Party" has been taking over by radicals, I used to support Obama even.
Which radicals?
I was alerted to problems in this thread. Is there something I need to address?
There also seems to be a lot of Kool Aid drinking from people with the posts I've read. It's a shame really. Too many people get caught up with the hype from either side. Many politicians get into politics to make a difference. Very few are not corrupted in some way later.
Both sides have made use of fear and divisiveness over the past 10-15 years to take away our liberties, freedoms and rights. Both sides say they're for *insert important ideal*, but at the end of the day it's just a power grab.
The last 50 years has shown that most every major piece of large legislation has either failed utterly, stripped us of freedom, increased the deficit, or cost lives.
It's a rinse and repeat cycle. There are debates from as far back as the '60s where the same arguments are occurring. And with every repeat of the cycle, we the people end up losing more freedom, money and liberty.
I really hope some of you wake up and see what is actually going on.
Anyway, let's get back on topic and respect each other a little more. That way I don't have to come back in this thread. 👆