What ? Obi-Wan is not beating Maul. He only beat Savage in Florrum and that was only 'one-time'
Obi-Wan can't even defeat Savage that ease
Kenobi also failed to save Adi Gallia from Savage,
Like I said, that was only one time thing, and Maul underestimated Kenobi in there,
''Surrender, we are two, and you are no match for us both...''
(just like he did in TPM) that is why Kenobi managed to defeat Savage.
He never defeated Maul.
Example ? Here is ;
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That doesn't make any sense. And in duels that hardly last minutes, every second is vital.Except he's done it several times.
He gets slammed into the wall falls down, and tak
Which is TK.
Makes plenty of sense. The first time Kenobi was sitting their watching then make their attack before moving.
Only time he has ever done it is on a place specifically mentioned to be strong in the dark side. Otherwise, never.
Sure, and it doesn't mean he is superior (inferior firce users often send their superiors flying with a push). And certainly not to the extend that he could rag doll him at will.
Originally posted by Nephthys
RotS Kenobi is also superior to any version who faced Maul, remember.
He faced Maul towards the end of TCW. So no.
If we're just going to assume Kenobi improved since then without any evidence to suggest as much, then I'll just assume that SOD Maul > TCW Maul. Heck since Maul never even died I'll just assume ROTS Maul > SOD Maul.
Compare their fights with each other or against similar opponents. But don't give me that ROTS Kenobi > All other Kenobi's and Maul's just because he is.
Originally posted by ares834
Sure. And they were running because Kebobi just handed them their asses.
Kind of like how Kenobi and Ventress Ran for their lives from Maul and Savage because they were getting handed their asses.
And Kenobi never handed Maul his ass anyway. Kicking him back without injuring him at all, without flooring him even once and without disarming him of his weapon. ... is not handing him his ass. Not by a long shot.
On the other hand Maul's Force push actually did Floor Kenobi and actually did disarm him. So even in the fight where you're claiming "Kenobi kicked Maul's ass" It was actually Maul who landed the more lethal blows on Kenobi than Vice Versa.
So it was nothing like (for instance) the time when Ventress fought off Kenobi and Skywalker KOing Kenobi within seconds and Force choking then both at the end. Now that was an Ass Kicking!
Originally posted by ares834
Makes plenty of sense. The first time Kenobi was sitting their watching then make their attack before moving.
Only time he has ever done it is on a place specifically mentioned to be strong in the dark side. Otherwise, never.
Sure, and it doesn't mean he is superior (inferior firce users often send their superiors flying with a push).
And certainly not to the extend that he could rag doll him at will.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not really. Kenobi was knocked down and he wanted to surprise them, not because he wanted to, but because he had to. The way you're wording it makes it seems like he had the advantage there, and he really did.
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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because of Maul and Savage. Not to mention theses two feats you're continuously trying to ignore simply because they show how inferior Kenobi was at least there.
Ignore? Not at all. However, neither suggests he can rag doll Kenobi at will.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kenobi controversially has never overpowered Maul once. Multiple occasions of getting your ass handed to you do not make you a superior Force user.
Once was because Kenobi had his concentration split between two due lists and the other was by a force push that clearly caught him off guard. So yeah, once again not seeing anything suggesting he could tag doll him with the force.
I do believe Maul's force abilities are superior though. But that's mainly due to his superior feats in that regard rather than anything that happened in this duel.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except he has.
Nope. Only at a place strong in the dark side.
Originally posted by ares834
Ignore? Not at all. However, neither suggests he can rag doll Kenobi at will.
Once was because Kenobi had his concentration split between two due lists and the other was by a force push that clearly caught him off guard. So yeah, once again not seeing anything suggesting he could tag doll him with the force.
I do believe Maul's force abilities are superior though. But that's mainly due to his superior feats in that regard rather than anything that happened in this duel.
Nope. Only at a place strong in the dark side.
Originally posted by ares834
Welp it wasn't Kenobi running like a ***** on Floruum. 😂
Maul ran because of Savage's injury not becaue he lost.
If not, he shouldn't able to knock out Obi-Wan with a powerful force blast.
Just because you like Obi-Wan or you don't like Maul that doesn't change the fact. Maul is slightly faster, equally skilled and has much better TK than RotS Obi-Wan.
Originally posted by ares834
Welp it wasn't Kenobi running like a ***** on Floruum. 😂
And it was Kenobi plus Ventress running like b****** from Maul and Opress in "Revenge."
The whole "Running" argument is lame in most situations. Sidious attempted to run from Yoda and yet ended up winning.
It's a simply a tactical retreat seen as the favourable option in a given scenario so frankly a pretty lazy argument to use.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66@NewGuy, What are you talking about? When Maul casually force choked Kenobi while fighting off another jedi? I haven't read the entire comic, just strips, but I did question Silver2467 about the planet being a DS nexus, and he told me the reason the area was strong with the dark side was due to the presence of Maul and Savage, otherwise the planet wasn't even populated by force users, nor was there any reason for the place to be strong with the dark side until the arrival of Maul and Savage. I took it as a similar case when Anakin and Kenobi stated that they sensed Mustafar being strong with the dark side on account of the holographic presence of Sidious (unknown to them). Do you mind posting the scan stating it was a nexus?
After rereading the comic this makes the most sense for that scenario. The Jedi were hunting the Sith and so the Jedi mentioning "the dark side is strong here" was their clue that they were on the right track.
Aside from that line no mention was made of that planet having any relation to the dark side whatsoever.