DC and Marvel monopolies

Started by Golgo138 pages

Originally posted by riv6672
&golgo13

Completely disagree.
Marvel has some if the best scientists in comics.
DC has the most prominent street leveler in Batman, but Marvel has the better defined street level scene.
Thanks, though!

I don't know about the street scene. Batman family alone can balance things out: Nightwing, Batman, Robin, Azrael, Batgirl, Batwoman, etc...

And that's not including the Wildstorm streets that are now apart of DCU and Green Arrow, etc...

Just looking for opinions. Wasnt looking to change your mind, just explaining why i disagree.

Are you including DC's entire history? Pre-Crisis Dr. Sivana, Brainiac, Luthor, and Ultra Humanite have some insane feats that put them right along most of Marvel's.

Yup. Looking at everything, good question. 👆

Super science has been a big part of DC. Along with horror, western, World War 2 type stories, and science fiction. Mystery In Space, All-Star Squadron, All-Star Western, Freedom Fighters (Uncle Sam), Sgt. Rock, just to name a few titles.

In terms of teens, it's pretty much a split. Marvel has the Young Avengers and all the various X-teams. DC has Teen Titans, Titans, and Legion of Super-Heroes.

Re: DC and Marvel monopolies

Originally posted by riv6672
Each Company has monopolies on certain types of concepts and characters.
List them, add them, rate them, switch them out if you dont agree...

Mutants-Marvel

Alien heroes (on earth)-DC

Sidekicks-DC

Teen heroes-Marvel

Science and scientists-Marvel

Established future-DC

Speedsters-DC

Magic-???

Gods and best defined pantheons-Marvel

WWII heroes-DC

Street levelers-Marvel

Just to start things off...

Another interesting topic!

I'd agree with almost everything here...I'd actually put Marvel ahead in the magic category, but it's iffy (where are we drawing the line on what's magic? Iron Fist and Shang Chi have been said to use "chi magic", for example). If we're talking straight spell-casting, incantation-based magic, I think DC gets the win.

It is tough to argue against the WW2 behemoth that is Captain America, but I'm fairly ignorant of DC's WW2 tapestry so I have no argument to make.

I'll add one:

Catch-phrases - Marvel

How many Marvel books are mystic? Because DC has a lot of them. Constantine, Trinity of Sin, Phantom Stranger, Pandora, Swamp Thing, Justice League Dark, Klarion coming up, etc...

Originally posted by Golgo13
How many Marvel books are mystic? Because DC has a lot of them. Constantine, Trinity of Sin, Phantom Stranger, Pandora, Swamp Thing, Justice League Dark, Klarion coming up, etc...

Wasn't going by books, was going by characters....Dr. Strange, Baron Mordo, Dormammu, Nightmare, Ghost Rider (Ketch), Ghost Rider (Blaze), John Blaze (sans Ghost Rider), Lilith and all the Lilin...really a large number of GR spooks...Loki, Thor, and ALL the Asgardians (whose powers are always said to be magic-based)..

Magic is kind of an iffy thing to pin down, imo.

DC has (Classic/Real) LOBO so they win on the BadAss scale.

Originally posted by GroggyGrunt
Wasn't going by books, was going by characters....Dr. Strange, Baron Mordo, Dormammu, Nightmare, Ghost Rider (Ketch), Ghost Rider (Blaze), John Blaze (sans Ghost Rider), Lilith and all the Lilin...really a large number of GR spooks...Loki, Thor, and ALL the Asgardians (whose powers are always said to be magic-based)..

Magic is kind of an iffy thing to pin down, imo.

Well, if either company has a larger amount of books, that means (sometimes) that their are more mystics/mages that will show up. I looked at their recent previews and Marvel only has one, which is Thor. I hope Avengers of the Supernatural gets a book, because that will balance out Justice League Dark.

Others who have had books are Lucifer, Tim Hunter, Dr. Fate, Shadowpact, etc...

Originally posted by Golgo13
Well, if either company has a larger amount of books, that means (sometimes) that their are more mystics/mages that will show up. I looked at their recent previews and Marvel only has one, which is Thor. I hope Avengers of the Supernatural gets a book, because that will balance out Justice League Dark.

Others who have had books are Lucifer, Tim Hunter, Dr. Fate, Shadowpact, etc...

*shrug* I'm too out of the current loop to argue books, so I'll assume you're correct in that. I was just thinking of magical beings, not titles.

Originally posted by GroggyGrunt
*shrug* I'm too out of the current loop to argue books, so I'll assume you're correct in that. I was just thinking of magical beings, not titles.

I think it's pretty hard to know how many mystics are in each company without keeping track of it.

Re: Re: DC and Marvel monopolies

Originally posted by GroggyGrunt
Another interesting topic!

Thanks!

Originally posted by GroggyGrunt
It is tough to argue against the WW2 behemoth that is Captain America, but I'm fairly ignorant of DC's WW2 tapestry so I have no argument to make.

Good choice of words in tapestry.
DCs WWII characters have spawned legacy characters and descendant characters up the wazoo...

Originally posted by GroggyGrunt
I'll add one:

Catch-phrases - Marvel

Good one, True Believer!

Top Tiers?

Abstracts?

Teleporters?

You tell us.

You tell us.

You tell us.

You started this thread. You tell me. 😖hifty:

You're right, i did start the thread...

List them, add them, rate them, switch them out if you dont agree...

...and nowhere did i say, "ask me questions instead of providing examples".

Originally posted by Golgo13
I think it's pretty hard to know how many mystics are in each company without keeping track of it.

Certainly fair to say, which is why I'm all ears. That being said, you have yet to convince me.

DCs WWII characters have spawned legacy characters and descendant characters up the wazoo...

I don't doubt it!

Good one, True Believer!

😆

I always liked how their characters were Amazing, Incredible, Mighty, Uncanny...😂