DC and Marvel monopolies

Started by Golgo138 pages

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Well same goes if you add in Marvel's non comic characters, but Comics they make. like Stephen King comics (Marvel), Halo comics (Marvel), and then yiou have the Ultimate Marvel comics with all the characters in street level like Ultimate Spider Men, Villains, Ultimate Captain America, ultimate Hawkeye, Ultimate Wolverine, ect....

Way more streets than DC in every way.

We're just including Marvel characters. I included Milestone and WS, because they were folded in the main DCU.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nah, Vixen has been around, Pre-Crisis era. She's been around since 1981. Black Lighting before that. He appeared since 1971. Both have been on the Justice League at one point and has been in DC's cartoons.

I also forgot characters like:

Mr. Terrific
Firestorm (Jason)
Bronze Tiger
Icon
Steel (Shaq, Lol)
etc...

DC has just as many.

According to this site, called the World of Black Heroes, Marvel has about twice as many black heroes in the top thirty as DC, with a count of 17 for Marvel vs 9 for DC. Milestone has 2.

According to them, 'This list is based on which black superheroes have received the most traffic (The most popular superheroes on the website) since we began back in 2010 right up to May 2013.'

Where the hell is Mr. Terrific and Black Lighting? Mr. T should be on the list, but it's only based off of traffic.

Good list, though.

Originally posted by Golgo13
We're just including Marvel characters. I included Milestone and WS, because they were folded in the main DCU.

Ultimate Marvel, Marvel Zombies, and Supreme Power universes have all interacted and folded for arcs with 616. Whats your point?

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Ultimate Marvel, Marvel Zombies, and Supreme Power universes have all interacted and folded for arcs with 616. Whats your point?

DC has sub imprints, too. Wildstorm, Archie, Milestone, DCnU, etc... Marvel isn't taking the street category easily.

Originally posted by Golgo13
DC has sub imprints, too. Wildstorm, Archie, Milestone, DCnU, etc... Marvel isn't taking the street category easily.

Oh you want to get technical eh? Well Marvel is Disney now, that means Star Wars comics, and all Disney related comics apply as well I guess 🙂

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Oh you want to get technical eh? Well Marvel is Disney now, that means Star Wars comics, and all Disney related comics apply as well I guess 🙂

We're not counting those that aren't related to Marvel. Halo, Disney, etc.. don't count.

Originally posted by Golgo13
We're not counting those that aren't related to Marvel. Halo, Disney, etc.. don't count.
So you aren't couting them all.

😂

Re: DC and Marvel monopolies

Originally posted by riv6672
Each Company has monopolies on certain types of concepts and characters.
List them, add them, rate them, switch them out if you dont agree...

Mutants-Marvel

In name only. Technically a mutant is a altered genetic sequence This is what a meta gene is in DCu which is every non magic/alien character

Alien heroes (on earth)-DC

really. The Superman family, Hawkman family, MMH and Maxima. No others REALLY stay on earth any more than the likes of say Mar-vell (in fact some could even question MMH and Maxima in that regard)

Sidekicks-DC

care factor?? Honestly this is only due to the fact that DC acquired the rights to SO MANY golden age comics companies characters and it was really prevalent then. It's a spin of from more WWII characters.

Teen heroes-Marvel

I can't see either compamy taking a monopoly on this.

Science and scientists-Marvel

also pretty bloody even close to an even split.

Established future-DC

also pretty even IMO
Speedsters-DC

Magic-???
border line call but I'd lean toward DC. with concepts like the conclave, sentinels of magic, Lords of Order and Chaos on top of similar things like hell lords and heaven at marvel. Add in teh hundreds of mystically powered metas and helrald level characters like hawk and Dove, Shazam family, Blue beetle (original) it's sort of a lock. Again mainly because magic was a favorite way of powering characters in the GA

Gods and best defined pantheons-Marvel

not seeing a lot of defference. DC ahs Greek, New gods, Egyptian (as part of Dr fate and Hawkman mythos) as well as Aztec. Pretty even

WWII heroes-DC
[/b] this is just a given. they are the merger of two GA companies and acquired 4 more. When you have a team set in WWII with over 70 members plus actual WWII army heroes in your line up - Blackhawks Sgt Rock and "Company" you lock the WWII era up[/b]

Street levelers-Marvel

[b] due to the WWII thing NO, at the very least even. of those 70 GA heroes most were street level. They almost all have descendants (and several at that)

Just to start things off...

Telepathy - Marvel By sheer numbers of characters anyway. DC has characters to match the high end ones but I don't think anywhere near as many.

^^ Forgot about the Blackhawks!

This has been some good reading!

Someone made a respect thread on DC's Gods and DC's Martial Artists (That are NOT Batman) a while ago, but I can't find them. Here is a good list of DC's Gods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gods_%28DC_Comics%29

Thanks, good link.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thanks, good link.

You should check out the mini series, "Vext". Features a ton of minor pantheons. Plus, it was pretty funny, from what I remember,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vext

👆

Originally posted by Dreampanther
I see what you mean, but I was referring to 'prominent super heroes' specifically because I consider myself an average to fair comic book fan and reader, and to me it feels that Marvel has more well-known black superheroes. Most of the DC heroes, with the exception of John Stewart, that you listed I've never heard of.

I didn't know that the new Wally West is African American, but then I also only recently found out about Miles Morales, the new black Spider-Man.

Personally, it feels a little wrong to me to suddenly change white characters into black characters. Why not make can effort to create a new character rather, or take one of those characters you mentioned and give him or her some love? 😛

As it is, I have not been convinced yet - I still maintain Marvel dominates in prominent black super heroes.

Miles is more a legacy character than anything

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Streets is Marvel easy. they have the most defined and overall most popular Street Hero comics. Spider Man, Dare Devil, Punisher, Moonknight, Wolverine, Hawkeye, Captain America, and more. now when you look at comic ongoings for DC with Streets, what do you have? Batman, and at times Green Arrow. Thats really it. Even in movies what Street heroes from DC made it to the big screen? Batman..... thats it. Marvel has Dare Devil, Electra, Punisher, Captain America, and Spider Man on the screen.

Streets... Marvel no contest.

Magic can swing both ways IMO. Ghost Riders, Hell Lords, Dr. Strange, The Vishanti, The Elder Gods, Dormmamu, Scarlet Witch, Chuma Gorath, Cyttorak, and more. All these characters play a large role in magic as well the universes of Marvel.

Some of the people you've got on your list are a higher tier than that, which is why I said

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Meta is marvel

I wondered what you meant by that.