Streets is Marvel easy. they have the most defined and overall most popular Street Hero comics. Spider Man, Dare Devil, Punisher, Moonknight, Wolverine, Hawkeye, Captain America, and more. now when you look at comic ongoings for DC with Streets, what do you have? Batman, and at times Green Arrow. Thats really it. Even in movies what Street heroes from DC made it to the big screen? Batman..... thats it. Marvel has Dare Devil, Electra, Punisher, Captain America, and Spider Man on the screen.
Streets... Marvel no contest.
Magic can swing both ways IMO. Ghost Riders, Hell Lords, Dr. Strange, The Vishanti, The Elder Gods, Dormmamu, Scarlet Witch, Chuma Gorath, Cyttorak, and more. All these characters play a large role in magic as well the universes of Marvel.
Originally posted by CadenceV2
Streets is Marvel easy. they have the most defined and overall most popular Street Hero comics. Spider Man, Dare Devil, Punisher, Moonknight, Wolverine, Hawkeye, Captain America, and more. now when you look at comic ongoings for DC with Streets, what do you have? Batman, and at times Green Arrow. Thats really it. Even in movies what Street heroes from DC made it to the big screen? Batman..... thats it. Marvel has Dare Devil, Electra, Punisher, Captain America, and Spider Man on the screen.Streets... Marvel no contest.
Magic can swing both ways IMO. Ghost Riders, Hell Lords, Dr. Strange, The Vishanti, The Elder Gods, Dormmamu, Scarlet Witch, Chuma Gorath, Cyttorak, and more. All these characters play a large role in magic as well the universes of Marvel.
If you include Spider-Man, maybe, but isn't he more mid tier than anything? Like I said earlier, DC's Bat Family basically balances out MOST of Marvel's streets. Batman, Batgirl, Nightwing (Grayson), Batwoman, Azrael, etc... And that's not including streets from Wildstorm and Milestone, which BOTH universes have been folded into the main DCU.
You also have to define streets, because someone like Constantine or Aunt May are streets. Along with mad scientist type characters.
I also forgot to add that Homo Magi is similar to the mutants Marvel has, which is another reason magic plays a bigger part in the DCU. At least to me.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
I think street is split equally. With Batman you also get Batgirl, Huntress, Black Canary, Nightwing, Robin, Red Hood, etc.Magic, agreed, can go either way.
Once you count other imprints like Vertigo (Hellblazer, Swamp Thing, Endless, etc...) Which are in the same realm of DCU, It's not that close, IMO.
And currently, DC produces a lot more mystic books than Marvel.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Does Marvel have a monopoly on prominent black superheroes? I can think of Luke Cage, T'Challa, Ororo, Blade, Blue Marvel, Falcon, even the new Nick Fury.Who is there in DC? Steel, Cyborg, Amanda Waller, Static (?)
I would say Marvel has the majority.
The WHOLE Milestone line (When DC had published it) was all minority characters. Here is a list:
http://www.comicvine.com/milestone/4010-538/characters/
You also forgot characters like Vixen, Black Lightning, Tangent Superman, Val Zod (Earth 2 Superman), John Stewart, Calvin Superman, etc...
And recently the new Wally West is African American.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Once you count other imprints like Vertigo (Hellblazer, Swamp Thing, Endless, etc...) Which are in the same realm of DCU, It's not that close, IMO.And currently, DC produces a lot more mystic books than Marvel.
To counter, I would like to point out that Marvel also has Captain Britain and that whole Merlyn, Morgan La Fey and Excalibur thing, Doctor Druid and Hellstrom, not to mention Loki, Ghost Rider, Mephisto, as well as Nico from Avengers Arena and now Avengers Undercover. Maybe not as many books dealing with magic exclusively, but definitely more than enough well-known characters with magic abilities to balance it out, I would suggest. 🙂
Originally posted by Dreampanther
To counter, I would like to point out that Marvel also has Captain Britain and that whole Merlyn, Morgan La Fey and Excalibur thing, Doctor Druid and Hellstrom, not to mention Loki, Ghost Rider, Mephisto, as well as Nico from Avengers Arena and now Avengers Undercover. Maybe not as many books dealing with magic exclusively, but definitely more than enough well-known characters with magic abilities to balance it out, I would suggest. 🙂
DC has Demon Knights (Great series, BTW), which had that whole Merlyn thing, along with Morgan Le Fay, Etrigan the Demon, Madame Xanadu (Who also had her own series), Mordru, Lucifer, Neron, etc...
Originally posted by Golgo13
The WHOLE Milestone line (When DC had published it) was all minority characters. Here is a list:http://www.comicvine.com/milestone/4010-538/characters/
You also forgot characters like Vixen, Black Lightning, Tangent Superman, Val Zod (Earth 2 Superman), John Stewart, Calvin Superman, etc...
And recently the new Wally West is African American.
I see what you mean, but I was referring to 'prominent super heroes' specifically because I consider myself an average to fair comic book fan and reader, and to me it feels that Marvel has more well-known black superheroes. Most of the DC heroes, with the exception of John Stewart, that you listed I've never heard of.
I didn't know that the new Wally West is African American, but then I also only recently found out about Miles Morales, the new black Spider-Man.
Personally, it feels a little wrong to me to suddenly change white characters into black characters. Why not make can effort to create a new character rather, or take one of those characters you mentioned and give him or her some love? 😛
As it is, I have not been convinced yet - I still maintain Marvel dominates in prominent black super heroes.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
I see what you mean, but I was referring to 'prominent super heroes' specifically because I consider myself an average to fair comic book fan and reader, and to me it feels that Marvel has more well-known black superheroes. Most of the DC heroes, with the exception of John Stewart, that you listed I've never heard of.I didn't know that the new Wally West is African American, but then I also only recently found out about Miles Morales, the new black Spider-Man.
Personally, it feels a little wrong to me to suddenly change white characters into black characters. Why not make can effort to create a new character rather, or take one of those characters you mentioned and give him or her some love? 😛
As it is, I have not been convinced yet - I still maintain Marvel dominates in prominent black super heroes.
You never heard of Black Lightning or Vixen? :/ They are constantly being featured in main stream books and cartoons. Justice League for one.
Oh, I also forgot Cyborg. Duh. He's going to be in the Justice League movie.
Originally posted by Golgo13
You never heard of Black Lightning or Vixen? :/ They are constantly being featured in main stream books and cartoons. Justice League for one.Oh, I also forgot Cyborg. Duh. He's going to be in the Justice League movie.
Yeah, Cyborg I actually mentioned in my original post - I used to be a huge Titans fan. Black Lightning and Vixen... No, not really, sorry. 😮 Is this the New 52 you're talking about? I stopped reading DC a while ago when I got fed up with the constant rebooting. I tried reading the Justice League and Justice League Dark for a while, but just lost interest. I only recently picked up Grayson, and have to admit I enjoyed it, and Grant's Multiversity was freaking awesome, but otherwise I much prefer Marvel these days.
I posted earlier about Marvel having the edge in fun for me, so the comics I pick up these days are Deadpool, Thunderbolts (because it has Deadpool 😛 ), Rocket Raccoon, Guardians of the Galaxy (because Rocket and Groot), Avengers Undercover because I thought Avengers Arena was excellent, and as many Avengers related comics as I can, like New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, etc.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Yeah, Cyborg I actually mentioned in my original post - I used to be a huge Titans fan. Black Lightning and Vixen... No, not really, sorry. 😮 Is this the New 52 you're talking about? I stopped reading DC a while ago when I got fed up with the constant rebooting. I tried reading the Justice League and Justice League Dark for a while, but just lost interest. I only recently picked up Grayson, and have to admit I enjoyed it, and Grant's Multiversity was freaking awesome, but otherwise I much prefer Marvel these days.I posted earlier about Marvel having the edge in fun for me, so the comics I pick up these days are Deadpool, Thunderbolts (because it has Deadpool 😛 ), Rocket Raccoon, Guardians of the Galaxy (because Rocket and Groot), Avengers Undercover because I thought Avengers Arena was excellent, and as many Avengers related comics as I can, like New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, etc.
Nah, Vixen has been around, Pre-Crisis era. She's been around since 1981. Black Lighting before that. He appeared since 1971. Both have been on the Justice League at one point and has been in DC's cartoons.
I also forgot characters like:
Mr. Terrific
Firestorm (Jason)
Bronze Tiger
Icon
Steel (Shaq, Lol)
etc...
DC has just as many.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
I think street is split equally. With Batman you also get Batgirl, Huntress, Black Canary, Nightwing, Robin, Red Hood, etc.Magic, agreed, can go either way.
Well same goes if you add in Marvel's non comic characters, but Comics they make. like Stephen King comics (Marvel), Halo comics (Marvel), and then yiou have the Ultimate Marvel comics with all the characters in street level like Ultimate Spider Men, Villains, Ultimate Captain America, ultimate Hawkeye, Ultimate Wolverine, ect....
Way more streets than DC in every way.
This also implies to Magic when you consider the Stephen King novels Marvel makes comics for.
