snake eyes vs batman

Started by relentless14 pages

lol, bats has beaten shiva so yeah, he's in the top 5 and he'd dole out a whoopn to connor too

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.ca/p/martial-arts.html

read it, understand it, batman is not to be f@cked with

There was a bio on Snake Eyes in a voted thread battle of the month done on another forum. See if I can find it, but the bio lists several martial arts mastery, and then there is the fact SE knows several MAs Batman has never seen befor either. That evens a bit the skill ground.

Gear wise Batman has a wide array of non lethal gear, Snake Eyes has a small but tried and proven array of lethal gear.

In the end this is a good match.

Originally posted by relentless1
lol, bats has beaten shiva so yeah, he's in the top 5 and he'd dole out a whoopn to connor too
are you talking about that crappy Superman/Batman story?

Why does knowing 127 different styles make a difference?

A punch is still a punch.

Originally posted by deathslash
are you talking about that crappy Superman/Batman story?

Is that the one where Shiva was being mind controlled?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Is that the one where Shiva was being mind controlled?
yes it was. Batman oneshotted her and then batman and superman proceeded to solo a huge group of heroes and villains.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why does knowing 127 different styles make a difference?

A punch is still a punch.

Not simply Knowing, Mastering!

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Not simply Knowing, Mastering!

This is not really true from what I seen. The Pre 52 Batman has a single Bio that stated "Mastered" and in the Silver Age he had a statement that said "Mastered". In new 52.... nothing is stated as mastered at all. Merely Adept.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Not simply Knowing, Mastering!

I hope you're not talking about the scene where Batman gave BG a DVD with the basics of 127 styles.

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.de/p/martial-arts.html

Originally posted by deathslash
then it's a good thing that conner hawk is still above bruce in h2h

Conner was overmatched by Shiva. Batman never beat her fairly, but he has stalemated her.

As well as Bronze Tiger, after taking a loss.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
http://batmanfeats.blogspot.de/p/martial-arts.html

IOW I was correct about it being the scene with the CD, BTW nowhere in the scene is it stated that Batman is a master of all 127 styles.

So if I've mastered tai chi, muay Thai and karate, I'd automatically beat Ali in his prime?

I think that people are also forgetting about how relentless snake eyes is. The skill physical and skill gap between these two isn't that big. As soon as batman realizes that he's fighting someone that's in his league, he'll probably try to get away from snake eyes and use his tech on him. The sad thing is that snake eyes is going to continue to chase bruce until he's down.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if I've mastered tai chi, muay Thai and karate, I'd automatically beat Ali in his prime?

No, but I would think you would have a better chance than not. Some martial arts emphasize, offense over defense, others defense over offense. Some emphasize evading, others emphasize blocking.
Knowing multiple styles also helps recognize what your opponent can/might do, just by their stance. Many other reasons being familiar with multiple styles will help, but not an auto win. Nothing is.

As to Prime time Ali, well, even other master boxers fell to the main man. 🙂

Well, sure, better chance - but just because one guy has mastered 127 styles, and the other has mastered five or whatever - does not automatically mean 127 guy wins.

After all, there are only so many different ways you can effectively punch. The human body only moves in certain ways, after all. A lot of those 127 styles will have things in common with each other - it's not as if Batman knows 127 different ways to headbutt someone.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW I was correct about it being the scene with the CD, BTW nowhere in the scene is it stated that Batman is a master of all 127 styles.

facepalm

Take your time and go through this site.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, sure, better chance - but just because one guy has mastered 127 styles, and the other has mastered five or whatever - does not automatically mean 127 guy wins.

After all, there are only so many different ways you can effectively punch. The human body only moves in certain ways, after all. A lot of those 127 styles will have things in common with each other - it's not as if Batman knows 127 different ways to headbutt someone.

In comic it does. Don't apply RL to comics, especially not when it comes to MA because they work more like a superpower, best example KK. He knows all the MA in the Universe and can beat Kryptonians.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
facepalm

Take your time and go through this site.

No need, I've read the scene in question and it doesn't mention him being a master of 127 styles.