Kill the Surfer!

Started by carver910 pages
Originally posted by Newjak
Based on the one scan he pointed out where we see the gauge empty he could be right in that Thanos almost had it filled carver.

Which scan?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
lol you see the gauge filling FROM LEFT TO RIGHT slowly when Thanos starts the process.

Moondragon said about the process not been finished/complete, Surfer completes the releasing mechanism.

It hard to see why posters ignore what's actually shown on panel .

It's this simple ..the gauge is show to fill from left to right and is empty at the start and shown to be full when Drax kills Thanos . The thing happens with the cylinders on the top of the machine.

It actually doesn't. At all times Thanos is touching and we can clearly see the panel it appears to be at the same exact spot.

I'm willing to admit that first scan where we see an empty gauge could mean the gauge filled from left to right.

But it is pretty clear it wasn't simply flipping a switch that needed to be done and that power cells still needed raw power added to them.

So they obviously weren't full or filled. It's as simple as that.

Originally posted by carver9
Which scan?
The scan where Drax tears open the doors we see the empty panel next to Thanos. We see the the squares to gauge empty indicating that only that only the area with the scares can fill up.

Originally posted by Newjak
The scan where Drax tears open the doors we see the empty panel next to Thanos. We see the the squares to gauge empty indicating that only that only the area with the scares can fill up.

Are you saying that the spot without the light is a indication of the gauge being filled up because if so, you're wrong. Here is the gauge before Thanos even touched it...

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/ann_04_023_zps311c7c3e.jpg

No lights on it.

Disregard...I misread your post. One sec..

Originally posted by carver9
Are you saying that the spot without the light is a indication of the gauge being filled up because if so, you're wrong. Here is the gauge before Thanos even touched it...

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/ann_04_023_zps311c7c3e.jpg

No lights on it.

No the scan you posted is the one I am talking about. You can clearly see the squares that need to be filled up being blank. It means that if the gauge went from right to left we should see more of them going up the other side but do not.

Edit: Okay

Originally posted by Newjak
It actually doesn't. At all times Thanos is touching and we can clearly see the panel it appears to be at the same exact spot.

I'm willing to admit that first scan where we see an empty gauge could mean the gauge filled from left to right.

But it is pretty clear it wasn't simply flipping a switch that needed to be done and that power cells still needed raw power added to them.

So they obviously weren't full or filled. It's as simple as that.

you can see it filling from left to right thought at the top of the empty gauge is then filled when the red on the indicator.

You're just ignoring what is shown from the start when all cylinders and the gauge is empty and it the end both are shown to be filled.

Surfer just uses energy for the release mechanism.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
you can see it filling from left to right thought at the top of the empty gauge is then filled when the red on the indicator.

You're just ignoring what is shown from the start when all cylinders and the gauge is empty and it the end both are shown to be filled.

Surfer just uses energy for the release mechanism.

Which panel are you talking about because in every single panel I look at except for the empty gauge one, the gauge is filled at exactly the same point the same goes for the lights on top.

There is no panel as far as I can tell where it shows the gauge slowly filling at all.

Originally posted by Newjak
No the scan you posted is the one I am talking about. You can clearly see the squares that need to be filled up being blank. It means that if the gauge went from right to left we should see more of them going up the other side but do not.

Edit: Okay

So you're saying the squares is a indication of it being filled or not?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
you can see it filling from left to right thought at the top of the empty gauge is then filled when the red on the indicator.

You're just ignoring what is shown from the start when all cylinders and the gauge is empty and it the end both are shown to be filled.

Surfer just uses energy for the release mechanism.

Are you referring to the top panel in this scan?

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/ann_04_024_zpsa2b82978.jpg

The one where the gauge is half cut off but every part of it we can see is lit up exactly like the next two panels we see it?

Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying the squares is a indication of it being filled or not?
Yes that is what he is saying and it does make sense based on the art.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
you can see it filling from left to right thought at the top of the empty gauge is then filled when the red on the indicator.

You're just ignoring what is shown from the start when all cylinders and the gauge is empty and it the end both are shown to be filled.

Surfer just uses energy for the release mechanism.

I will double check the comic itself as I'm sure it's when Drax is first trying to get to Thanos.

As you've just admitted with all the cylinders been filled and the gauge at the top , what do you think Surfer had left to fill.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
I will double check the comic itself as I'm sure it's when Drax is first trying to get to Thanos.

As you've just admitted with all the cylinders been filled and the gauge at the top , what do you think Surfer had left to fill.

I'm saying you're wrong about the gauge slowly filling and that being indicator that end result proves it was filled because it appeared in that form the entire time Thanos was powering it up.

And based on Moondragon's own words after Thanos is killed it still need raw power to finish activating it meaning it wasn't fully charged.

Clearly on this aspect you are wrong and Surfer did have to supply power to make thing work. It wasn't just turning it on.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes that is what he is saying and it does make sense based on the art.

Wouldn't that mean the gauge was filled then? What purpose did Surfer have when the gauge was filled by the time he showed up?

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm saying you're wrong about the gauge slowly filling and that being indicator that end result proves it was filled because it appeared in that form the entire time Thanos was powering it up.

And based on Moondragon's own words after Thanos is killed it still need raw power to finish activating it meaning it wasn't fully charged.

Clearly on this aspect you are wrong and Surfer did have to supply power to make thing work. It wasn't just turning it on.

but you can see it's fully charged as all the cylinders are full after all been empty and the gauge is full to the top on red , even the panels on the gauge start smaller and get bigger from left to right.

Moondragon doesn't say it's not fully charged iirc she says about it not been complete.

Yeah surfer supplied the power to use the release device etc.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Unless "Restore" is somehow "Upgrade" in your dictionary? Galactus was specifically restoring Surfer and undoing what was once done in anger. So what else would Galactus restore surfer to when he only took his space time powers from him?

In the summary/bio scan you linked, it states Galactus:

"restores his power and resolve."

The fact that the author chose to separate power and resolve tells us Galactus did more than just change Surfer's mindset. He gave him power too. Otherwise it would've just said "restored his resolve" and nothing more.

That's more evidence lending to Surfer getting a power up. We have two bio/summaries that state Surfer received power from Galactus.

In your other scan it doesn't say Galactus took Surfer's space-time powers. In fact it says Galactus didn't take any powers from Surfer at all, and just put a barrier trapping Surfer on Earth.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Surfer on panel says he doesn't need the power and Galactus says about restoring him.

This isn't true either. Surfer never refused the power. Galactus offered to take away his remorse, and that's what Surfer rejected.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/orophinsgloss/Thesis%20-%20Excerpts%20for%20analysis/One%20Perfect%20Moment/Annihilation-SilverSurfer03page1-4.jpg

Galactus says: "I can heal you. I can renew your will. Grant you power. Take away the remorse."

Surfer says: "No. Give me the will to do what must be done. Let my remorse define me"

He's saying no to Galactus taking away his remorse, not to the power.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
I lied ! Can even read shemale?

He couldn't even get the fact right about how the fail safe worked.

Your crush on me is sad

Leave your sexual partners out of this convo. The scans were clear and his message was misinterpreted by your buffoonery.
Originally posted by One-Punch
This isn't true either. Surfer never refused the power. Galactus offered to take away his remorse, and that's what Surfer rejected.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/orophinsgloss/Thesis%20-%20Excerpts%20for%20analysis/One%20Perfect%20Moment/Annihilation-SilverSurfer03page1-4.jpg

Galactus says: "I can heal you. I can renew your will. Grant you power. [b]Take away the remorse."

Surfer says: "No. Give me the will to do what must be done. Let my remorse define me"

He's saying no to Galactus taking away his remorse, not to the power. [/B]

Abhi and insane titan deny reality and the meaning of simple words. To insane titan and Abhilegend I can honestly say I bet they both might think power and resolve mean the same thing. No comprehension skills of any kind and complete jackassery.

Originally posted by One-Punch
In the summary/bio scan you linked, it states Galactus:

"[b]restores his power and resolve."

The fact that the author chose to separate power and resolve tells us Galactus did more than just change Surfer's mindset. He gave him power too. Otherwise it would've just said "restored his resolve" and nothing more.

That's more evidence lending to Surfer getting a power up. We have two bio/summaries that state Surfer received power from Galactus.

In your other scan it doesn't say Galactus took Surfer's space-time powers. In fact it says Galactus didn't take any powers from Surfer at all, and just put a barrier trapping Surfer on Earth. [/B]


And when did I say he didn't gave him his "space/time" powers back?

Da ****? Here is the scene two pages before that scene. Anybody who has read Galactus Triology knows what Galactus did.

Originally posted by One-Punch
This isn't true either. Surfer never refused the power. Galactus offered to take away his remorse, and that's what Surfer rejected.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/orophinsgloss/Thesis%20-%20Excerpts%20for%20analysis/One%20Perfect%20Moment/Annihilation-SilverSurfer03page1-4.jpg

Galactus says: "I can heal you. I can renew your will. Grant you power. [b]Take away the remorse."

Surfer says: "No. Give me the will to do what must be done. Let my remorse define me"

He's saying no to Galactus taking away his remorse, not to the power. [/B]


And Galactus restored his space/time powers. That's what he had taken from Surfer in the first place.

😬

Originally posted by abhilegend
And when did I say he didn't gave him his "space/time" powers back?

Da ****? Here is the scene two pages before that scene. Anybody who has read Galactus Triology knows what Galactus did.

http://i.imgur.com/6lSJ1h7.jpg

Anyone who knows how to read english knows that Galactus taking away Surfer's "space-time" powers just means he's imprisoning Surfer on Earth. It even says in your own scan

Galactus says:

"You shall be herald to Galactus no longer. I remove your space-time powers. Henceforth the Silver Surfer shall roam the Galaxies no more!"

Your previous scan reinforces this:

Quote:

"Galactus had not actually deprived the Surfer of any super human powers, but had instead created a great barrier about the Earth that was intangible to all but the Surfer himself."

You should probably read the scans before posting them. They contradict your opinion. But at least it saves me time from digging them up.

And Galactus restored his space/time powers. That's what he had taken from Surfer in the first place.

First of all, refer me to on-panel evidence that even remotely suggest the powers Galactus gave Surfer in Annihlation were space-time. There are none. It was never referred to as "space-time" power, just simply power. You trying to suggest it was "space-time" is just pure speculation. The word "space-time" was never even used during the power up scene, or the bio, or the summary.

Secondly, in the past, those space-time powers referred to Surfer's ability to traverse the universe. It says so in your own scan. Surfer has since then been free of the barrier. Makes no sense that Galactus would give him the ability to travel the universe...when he's already able to do that.