Kill the Surfer!

After reading the scans, I'd say Surfer got a power up in that he became a herald again (Or at least released his "mental blocks"😉. It's had a positive impact on his average performance, at least around the Annihilation era. Not sure why this is such a big deal though. It matters so little in the long run that it's not like his previous fights become inadmissible (Which is why I think some people are against it, harder to lowball if people say it doesn't count).

The Thanos power signature scene was clearly also another example of power. The entire context, including Surfer's struggle points to this. It in no way means Surfer is the equal of Thanos in power however. So you can breath easy insane titan. It's not what Delph is suggesting either.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Karnilla also got a powerup, problem?

Not that I know of but the scans posted contribute nothing to the discussion regarding Surfer's power up one way or another.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
After reading the scans, I'd say Surfer got a power up in that he became a herald again (Or at least released his "mental blocks"😉. It's had a positive impact on his average performance, at least around the Annihilation era. Not sure why this is such a big deal though. It matters so little in the long run that it's not like his previous fights become inadmissible (Which is why I think some people are against it, harder to lowball if people say it doesn't count).

The Thanos power signature scene was clearly also another example of power. The entire context, including Surfer's struggle points to this. It in no way means Surfer is the equal of Thanos in power however. So you can breath easy insane titan. It's not what Delph is suggesting either.

Not that I know of but the scans posted contribute nothing to the discussion regarding Surfer's power up one way or another.

Delph was trying to suggest Surfer was as powerful as Thanos to further his case that Surfer got this mythical power up using proof of him not holding back against Ravenous and matching a power signature after Thanos had do e all the work filling the power gauge.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Have you even read the issue? Because anybody who has read it knows how the barrier worked. And how Surfer escaped it. The barrier was tuned to surfer's board, so surfer manually escaped the barrier in Fantastic Four's ship, turned his board into energy saying specifically that it only stopped his board.

That's why surfer couldn't escape the barrier while he was on his board. Go read the actual comic for once.

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None of that contradicts anything I said. I know he escaped by turning his board to energy and then transmuting the board on the other side. That doesn't change the fact that he demonstrated space/time powers after he escaped but before Annihilation which means that he got them back when the barrier was taken down, not when he was upgraded in Annihilation. Galactus offered new power and to remove Surfer's remorse, Surfer said "no" to the removal of remorse but in no way said he didn't want the power increase.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
so you're going against what was said by the creator of the machine and how it was powered including Moondragons first statement about Thanos power signature and only using what Moondragon and Drax said after Thanos had been killed.

Not to mention the fact you somehow think it's logical for a weak Surfer to be able to match or be equal to Thanos.

I guess the point of the powerup has become moot now, as even if he did get a powerup it has been ignored by every writer since Annihilation 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't say that at all. Ypu cannot comprehend what he did say which is very telling. This is why proof never works on you because just like as in the English language. You just don't get it.

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Aww look at Quan commenting on me , you would of thought she would get over the butthurt . I guess I'm just too important to her life.

Insane titan is an anagram of An Insane Ti... hmm? 😖hifty:

Anus77 is just a low lvl Carver clone

Originally posted by carver9
None of that contradicts anything I said. I know he escaped by turning his board to energy and then transmuting the board on the other side. That doesn't change the fact that he demonstrated space/time powers after he escaped but before Annihilation which means that he got them back when the barrier was taken down, not when he was upgraded in Annihilation. Galactus offered new power and to remove Surfer's remorse, Surfer said "no" to the removal of remorse but in no way said he didn't want the power increase.

And surfer showing random space time powers have nothing to do with the fact that he was officially not with them and that's what Galactus gave him back.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Aww look at Quan commenting on me , you would of thought she would get over the butthurt . I guess I'm just too important to her life.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You lied about what he meant when he broke it down for you point by point. You can't comprehend what he said and just rehash your old tired non points. Poor clone.

He couldn't even get the fact right about how the fail safe worked.

Your crush on me is sad

Originally posted by abhilegend
It contradicted everything you said.

And surfer showing random space time powers have nothing to do with the fact that he was officially not with them and that's what Galactus gave him back.

He was only officially without them while he was trapped. Or do you have a statement from after his release but before Annihilation saying that he was still without them? Sounds like you're trying to extrapolate that meaning without proper foundation, and your method of doing so seems to be using a bio to contradict the space/time powers Surfer demonstrated on panel. But even if you were correct in regards to your theory(and you're not), what's more important bios or on panel feats?

Not really. He showed them while he was trapped on Earth.

This scan is from 1990 in History of The Marvel Universe, three years after Surfer was freed from Earth.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15764043/30.jpg.html

So there. you have it that even after that he was still without his space time powers. And its not a bio, its narration from the author.

Now stop talking out of your ass.

So If I'm reading this right, abhi is suggesting Galactus gave back Surfer's space-time powers in Annihilation?

Originally posted by One-Punch
So If I'm reading this right, abhi is suggesting Galactus gave back Surfer's space-time powers in Annihilation?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Unless "Restore" is somehow "Upgrade" in your dictionary? Galactus was specifically restoring Surfer and undoing what was once done in anger. So what else would Galactus restore surfer to when he only took his space time powers from him?

His hair.

Or his balls.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. He showed them while he was trapped on Earth.

This scan is from 1990 in History of The Marvel Universe, three years after Surfer was freed from Earth.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15764043/30.jpg.html

So there. you have it that even after that he was still without his space time powers. And its not a bio, its narration from the author.

Now stop talking out of your ass.

That doesn't say that he was still without them after he escaped from Earth. When has Marvel came out and said that Surfer got his space/time powers back during Annihilation or when after his escape but before Annihilation was it acknowledged that he was still without them?

For that matter, where in your own handbook scan does it say that Galactus took his space time powers, looks to me like it specifically says that Galactus didn't remove any of his superhuman powers and only mentions a barrier that he can't pass through....