There is nothing to troll, Bane has lesser feats than Kenobi. The only place that there is an exception is here. Bane isnt as powerful as Malgus, Kun, or Krayt; his TK feats in DOE are pathetic, he's slower, has no comparable dueling feats, and is probably weaker than Kenobi as well.
Bane has nothing
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Sort of how Obi-Wan has no Force defense showings to speak of. As far as sabers go, Bane is spoken of as having a very refined fighting style and well versed in Djem So. But I digress. You're to forgone anyway.
That's cool you think Bane has a "Refined style of Djem so". Too bad he's never actually beaten anyone noteworthy with it, and even his "refined" style still failed him when he got his ass kicked by Zannah.
Anakin is a superior practitioner of Djem so, and Obi wan held him off. Bane has no saber feats to compete with Kenobi, Bane has fought evenly with Zannah in sabers, beaten featless Sirak, but has no other dueling feats to put him on Kenobi's level. Kenobi has beaten Savage Opress, A'Sharad Hett, Asajj Ventress, General Grievous, fought evenly with Anakin Skywalker, fought well against Maul and Opress at once. Kenobi is a vastly more skilled duelist.
Bane's unamped/non nexus TK feats are: Killing non force sensitives with a lightsaber throw, levitating a non force sensitive, killing a featless Sith lord with TK, destroying tents and boxes and breaking a woman's spine, crushing non force sensitives with a couch, killing 5 non force sensitives and cracking a table. That's it he's never killed anyone powerful with TK, he's mainly preyed on non force sensitives and his TK feats are inferior to Savage, Ventress, Maul, and Dooku. There is no reason to believe he would do anything more than knock Kenobi back (assuming he can even do that), considering Kenobi has superior TK feats to Bane.
Kenobi's TK feats include:
Kenobi has torn down large slabs of machinery:
Kenobi has called down more massive slabs of machinery to the ground
Kenobi has collapsed a large tree:
Kenobi has moved Durge's ship:
He's torn down a massive slab of durasteel:
He feinted, to keep the droids' attention on his weapon while he used the Force to drop a huge rectangular slab of durasteel down from the ceiling.
Formed a massive wave out of Molecules of Water
Using the Force, Obi-Wan created a wave behind them. He reached out to every molecule of water, calling on the Force to bind them into a giant, cresting black wave
And crushed droids:
Pulling down Durasteel, heavy machine parts, crushing droids, and forming a tidal wave are more impressive feats than breaking boxes or killing non force sensitives. Kenobi would do more damage to Bane with TK than vice versa
Bane's only speed feat off nexus is forming his blade fast enough to form a shield and deflect slow moving rain drops, but again he wasn't fast enough to deflect all of them and had to dodge them. Kenobi is infinitely faster than Bane:
Kenobi has Moved in a blur, moved fast enough to appear to wield 5 lightsabers, moved fast enough to appear to be three places at once, deflected blaster fire from armies of droids, formed a fan out of his blade, formed a web of light, formed a wheel of lighting out of his saber, covered himself in the afterglow of his blade, dodged blaster bolts, sidedstepped blaster bolts at point blank range, and deflected blaster bolts from hundreds of droids.
Bane has absolutely nothing on Kenobi in terms of speed.
Bane has crushed a skull, and moved a durasteel door for his strenth feats. Kenobi has destroyed a spider droid with his bare hand, ripped open Grievous's chestplate, and broken Grievous's duraplast alloy arms 'like a cheap spoon'. Bane will not gain an advantage in strength.
(Credit goes to Erkan and Shootingnova)
So Bane is slower, less skilled, has inferior TK feats, and there is no reason to believe he can dominate Kenobi with TK when his feats are inferior to Maul, Tyranus, Dooku, and Ventress.
Bane gets murked
I'm not going to get into it with you, carthage. Not sure why you're posting feats from the RotS video game, do those actually happen anywhere else? And while TKing B1 droids is the definition of impressive, by which I mean is the single, undisputed, clearly, and maybe even near godly, most impressive thing you can do with TK besides levitating fruit, Kenobi's been doing that since TPM. Everyone has. Saying Obi-Wan held off Skywalker doesn't mean anything really when the state Anakin was in at the time. I like the double standard set here when the most impressive feat Kenobi has is defeating non-Force Sensitive Grievous, after hacking off half his arms. Finally, I like how you go on and on about unamped Bane, but considering Fated didn't say which Bane this was, I'm going to assume Orbalisk, and not really care what he can't do without them.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
😬Losing to Obi-Wan, especially in a good fight, isn't embarrassing. Bane's really good imo, he's just not in the league of those capable of stomping Kenobi.
Obi-Wan gets one-shot by Bane. He's not blocking his lightning or surviving his TK. And he doesn't have the speed to keep up with Bane in lightsaber combat. I didn't say it's embarassing for someone to lose to Obi-Wan, but it is severely underrating Bane to say he does. 😬
Sorry, man. Never been a big Bane fanboy. He's good, but Obi-Wan's better. You've gotta be the likes of Darth Sidious to one-shot Obi-Wan and Bane's nowhere near that level.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
👆Still siding Bane, though.
Bane being at the tail end of the Rule of Two is a major influence for my verdict. The Phantom Menace Scrapbook claims that the Banite Sith have increased in power over generations (which is the entire point of the Rule of Two) and we know from independent sources that Maul is one of the biggest badasses in Sith history. Obi-Wan can duke it out with Maul on relatively even terms, so I don't see him losing to Bane.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sorry, man. Never been a big Bane fanboy. He's good, but Obi-Wan's better. You've gotta be the likes of Darth Sidious to one-shot Obi-Wan and Bane's nowhere near that level.
Lol, loads of people can one-shot Obi-Wan. He has stupidly bad Force-defenses. Dooku can and Maul is on the cusp. Someone like Revan, Vader or Malgus could accomplish it comfortably. And Bane is certainly in their leagues. Obi-Wan hasn't demonstrated the power to block lightning capable of disintegrating multiple people. Nor has be demonstrated the TK necessary to survive Bane throwing out a temple-buster.
And while you were never a big fan, you've previously admitted that Bane can give Sidious and Yoda a good fight. But now he's so far below they can one-shot him? Ridiculous. You my friend have truly gone senile in your absence.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Bane being at the tail end of the Rule of Two is a major influence for my verdict. The Phantom Menace Scrapbook claims that the Banite Sith have increased in power over generations (which is the entire point of the Rule of Two) and we know from independent sources that Maul is one of the biggest badasses in Sith history. Obi-Wan can duke it out with Maul on relatively even terms, so I don't see him losing to Bane.
Flawless logic.
Lol, loads of people can one-shot Obi-Wan.
No, they can't.
He has stupidly bad Force-defenses.
No, he doesn't.
Dooku can
No, he can't.
and Maul is on the cusp.
No, he isn't.
Someone like Revan, Vader or Malgus could accomplish it comfortably.
No, they can't.
And Bane is certainly in their leagues.
Yes, yes he is.
Obi-Wan hasn't demonstrated the power to block lightning capable of disintegrating multiple people.
Oh please, Zannah could flick off his lightning with the back end of her staff. If nothing else he can dodge it.
Nor has be demonstrated the TK necessary to survive Bane throwing out a temple-buster.
Kas'im could, and he's hardly the Force User that Obi-Wan is.
Originally posted by Trocity
You're not actually saying Maul>Bane, are you?
What, you don't agree that Maul is more powerful than Bane because the RoT continually got more powerful even though that doesn't apply to Maul since he was merely a failed apprentice who never even approached his master in terms of power and is obviously far below any of the RoT Sith????