Originally posted by riv6672
You should follow the conversation in the same way (thoroughly), considering you were actually a part of it at one point. Bit beyond you, obviously.
I'll catch you up.
Krisblaze is nitpicking Star428 on Superman being the greatest superhero. I find it silly because there's no nit to pick. He IS the greatest superhero.
I'm going to assume this is your straight man answer to my joke in order to extract some more humor to the situation 👆
Originally posted by Q99Ha, like most of the time she doesn't gets oneshotted by the random villain of the week.
If we use pre-Reboot. Wonder Woman also has the best defense (Bracers can tank anything), a tiara that can cut things even Superman or GL couldn't cut, higher magic resistance- and definitely higher magic knowledge- and Wonder Woman can speak with animals.
(Post-boot cuts most of that, though the 'best vs magic' still applies I think)Shazam would like to have a word with you.
Really, almost all of the JLA is massively versatile. Even with all their overlap they usually have multiple things no-one else does. Superman has the best senses, and his energy absorption has come in handy more than a few times.Hahahaha. Superman's strength is the deal breaker in JLA.
Final Crisis, where she lassos together the pieces of Darksied so things can get to normal?No, she chained Darkseid's soul which didn't hold him for long anyway as Superman had to destroy his essence. The Ray painted Metron's signal on the world to free the people, she didn't. One task and she couldn't do it properly either.
Short role, but framed as crucial for, y'know, the world living and all that.HA! Superman did everything, Batman wounded Darkseid, Flashes brought Black Racer to Darkseid, GLs killed Mandrakk and wonder woman got enslaved for seven issues and then got one page out of the whole series where she did nothing of value whatsoever.
Infinite Crisis, where in the run-up she prevented Maxwell Lord from having his own personal Superman that we saw in Booster Gold would've easily been a sufficient factor for him to win?And which had no impact on IC as a whole? It was her own comic where she shined, what do you expect? In the main series, she did absolutely nothing. Even superboy and nightwing did more than her.
Your hate-on for WW is pretty darn transparent, y'know. If everyone knows you're just massively biased against a character and love tossing out their good feats, it makes it hard to take anything you say on them seriously. Poisoning your own well and all that.Lulz. Its not my fault that WW is useless.
WW barely in her own Event, so that's not too hard 🙂That tells how un-important she was.
I mean, seriously, Wonder Woman barely showed up in the event about WW's supporting cast, how dumb is that? One can hardly blame her for having something better to do than be in AA, of course, who would want to be in it...😂
Of course on other occasions, Diana's done stuff like lead multiple pantheons of gods against Cronus to prevent him from controlling reality, so she's done some *pretty* major things in other events of her own...In her own comic? Seriously? That's an event?
Originally posted by Star428
Actually, I think Captain Marvel was flying before he was. When Superman was first created he couldn't fly but could only leap huge distances and heights. I'm pretty sure it was only after Captain Marvel was created that Superman was given the ability to fly. I could be mistaken though but fairly certain I read it somewhere.
Originally posted by abhilegend
[b]MYTH:
Captain marvel was created with flight instead of jumping, so he isn't a complete superman rip-off.
Just like the original Superman who inspired him:Whiz Comics #2 (Millenium print)
_WC #3
WC #4
There was no usage of the word "fly" during his early years. Instead, "leap" was the ability used.
For those who don't know, cap started flying in Whiz comics 5. [/B]
And it wasn't because of Cap Superman started to fly, it was to match the radio show which had Superman fly 4 months before Cap did.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman was flying in his radio serial aired in Feb 1940, four months before the publication of whiz comics 5. Superman started flying in Action comics 35(April 1941), but he was gradually progressing in power before that and his jumps were getting more higher and long. Superman actually flew because of his Fleischer cartoons influencing the comic. If we're assuming that superman is a rip-off because of his flight, then he would be a rip-off of Namor who was the first SUPERHERO to fly and characters were flying before in comics.
Originally posted by Star428
[B]Not to mention the morale boost he gives the team in a fight. Everyone knows that if Superman's got your back then everything's gonna be ok. No other team member inspires that kind of confidence.
Actually this is a dangerous attitude for heroes to have. The whole "Supes is here, everything will be fine!" could wind up getting someone killed. As good as he is..he has limits.
Originally posted by juggerman
If they do die he will just reverse time and bring them back a la Superman I
He isn't that fast..plus why bother? Heroes rarely stay dead in this universe. As far as I am concerned you can't declare a hero legally dead until they have been dead without any resurrections for at least a decade.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Captain Marvel wasn't flying at the start either.And it wasn't because of Cap Superman started to fly, it was to match the radio show which had Superman fly 4 months before Cap did.
Namor rarely gets mentioned in these discussions, great post 👆
This is why your name goes always first when we talk about the famous duo Abhi & Carver biscuits
Originally posted by abhilegendNo, she chained Darkseid's soul which didn't hold him for long anyway as Superman had to destroy his essence. The Ray painted Metron's signal on the world to free the people, she didn't. One task and she couldn't do it properly either.
She chained it *so that* it could be destroyed. Misrepresentation there.
And which had no impact on IC as a whole?
Stopping Max from controlled Superman.... had no impact on IC as a whole?
Whelp, 'nother in the lie book for abhi.
Lulz. Its not my fault that WW is useless.
Yea, yea, you're biased and downplay everything about WW, we get it.
Why do you think anyone buys it when you get caught on being wrong and often just flat-out making things up and misrepresenting so very often?
That tells how un-important she was.
More like the writer had to avoid her to prevent her from unraveling the stupid plot in half an issue. Mind controlled leader, lasso of truth, 1+1.
In her own comic? Seriously? That's an event? [/B]
Oh, so it only counts if she's useful in events, eh? Funny, I thought this thread was about general usefulness. Guess you like putting goalposts where it's convenient.
Bet if I brought up how she prevented a city from being crushed in the Asmodel story of JLA you'd argue that JLA doesn't count either.
Hm, for event-events, there's also War of the Gods, again a multi-pantheon fight.