Hulk VS Thanos: PREDICTIONS

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The irony here is beyond belief.

You have a character in Thanos where nearly every low showing is capriciously retconned by his creator, Starlin. With Black Bolt I am citing the breadth of his history and saying that the INFINITY depiction doesn't make sense.

If it were Thanos suffering some damage/defeat that didn't coincide with his canon you would be the first to point it out. Even more you would dismiss it casually as PIS.

The history of BB doesn't have him causing damage to ppl the lvl of Thanos like his screams did. Plus you showed to prove your case.

I never call pis on anything so that's something else you're wrong on.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
learn to know what you're talking about , Starlin retconed what went against the progression of his character plus you don't even understand the losses you speak of.

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Do you think the references to the Thanosi are random?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Do you think the references to the Thanosi are random?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
if you think you know what you're talking about let's hear it.

I'll do better than that.

I'll get Starlin's words on the subject.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I'll do better than that.

I'll get Starlin's words on the subject.

Now, Insane Titan stated that the retcons were done because it "Went against the progression of his character".

How did the Ka-Zar and Thor losses go against the "Progression" Thanos as a character?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Now, Insane Titan stated that the retcons were done because it "Went against the progression of his character".

How did the Ka-Zar and Thor losses go against the "Progression" Thanos as a character?

Are you serious Thanos involves himself with cosmic universal events or something centred around some item of great power, yet with Kazar he's running round the jungle being physically out muscled by Kazar

I am looking for Starlin's definitive answer about "Progressing the story" and I've seen none.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
where is all this Starlin proof talk you was going to post?

Are you serious Thanos involves himself with cosmic universal events or something centred around some item of great power, yet with Kazar he's running round the jungle being physically out muscled by Kazar

Waid clearly demonstrated that Thanos was impaired thus negating any attempts to slight the character.

Does this scenario sound similar to the Thanos vs Black Bolt battle in INFINITY in regard to Boltagon?

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't think it's a big deal either. thanos took it. not sure why denying it seems so hard for some. carver actually showed some scans where others have handled it too. shrug

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In the Apocalypse scan it's telling us all of the hero's was putting "everything they have into their attacks" and Apocalypse tanked it with a smile. The scans where he hit the hero's, it's obvious it was his scream. It even states "and now they shall feel his true power".

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Waid clearly demonstrated that Thanos was impaired thus negating any attempts to slight the character.

Does this scenario sound similar to the Thanos vs Black Bolt battle in INFINITY in regard to Boltagon?

No it doesn't sound similar at all when the writer of Infinty said it was a scream as did Tom B along with the showing compared to his other showings.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
that has nothing to do with why Starlin retconed it though , the reason he retconed was due to Thanos being totally out of character and not because of a loss which you stated.

No it doesn't sound similar at all when the writer of Infinty said it was a scream as did Tom B along with the showing compared to his other showings.

Starlin didn't like the losses.

Period.

Even when a character with Thor's gravitas, who was also heavily amped, gave Thanos a loss in an epic battle he retconned it.

How did Jurgen's portrayal contradict anything that Starlin had portrayed up to that point?

As a Thanos expert I expect your answer(s) to be as specific to canon as possible.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Starlin didn't like the losses.

Period.

Even when a character with Thor's gravitas, who was also heavily amped, gave Thanos a loss in an epic battle he retconned it.

How did Jurgen's portrayal contradict anything that Starlin had portrayed up to that point?

As a Thanos expert I expect your answer(s) to be as specific to canon as possible.

Because at that point jurgens had Thanos go down the road trying to destroy the universe needlessly killing along the way , as starlin had Thanos state in Infinty abyss that clone along with other resorted to the most destructive way to solve problems.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
still waiting on this Starlin stuff you was going to post to shut me up.

Because at that point jurgens had Thanos go down the road trying to destroy the universe needlessly killing along the way , as starlin had Thanos state in Infinty abyss that clone along with other resorted to the most destructive way to solve problems.

I was looking for Starlin to cite the words you put in his mouth.

I have yet to find them.

So nothing at to back up your stance as usual.

Run along and be gone child.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
So nothing at to back up your stance as usual.

Run along and be gone child.

Starlin didn't like Thanos losing.

PERIOD.

The depictions under Waid and Jurgens were in line with the character's canon.

Now YOU can run along and POST the interview(s) that Starlin gave supporting your stance.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Starlin didn't like Thanos losing.

PERIOD.

The depictions under Waid and Jurgens were in line with the character's canon.

Now YOU can run along and [B]POST the interview(s) that Starlin gave supporting your stance. [/B]

Why should I when you didn't provide what you said to start with as you said you had starlins on words.

Anyhow you did a nice job trying to side track from the original point about Black Bolt after you was proven wrong.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
but the fact is they wasn't in line with Thanos progression as a character as the stories before and after proved that's why Starlin had Thanos give a explanation in infinity abyss.

Why should I when you didn't provide what you said to start with as you said you had starlins on words.

Anyhow you did a nice job trying to side track from the original point about Black Bolt after you was proven wrong.

1) The Sum of Starlin's statements about the retcons- I didn't like Thanos losing in the 2 instances cited and his Avengers appearance with Death.

That is what I and most readers get from Starlin. The "Story progression" claim is from you.

2) Black Bolt's scream- The canon speaks for itself as does the reality of mischaracterizations.

What is even worse is that YOU cite Thanos "Running around the Jungle" and "Being outmuscled" as the MAIN focus of criticism in the Ka-Zar appearance. Yet, when I allege the same thing as the reason Starlin didn't like it you dismiss it.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
1) The Sum of Starlin's statements about the retcons- I didn't like Thanos losing in the 2 instances cited and his Avengers appearance with Death.

That is what I and most readers get from Starlin. The "Story progression" claim is from you.

2) Black Bolt's scream- The canon speaks for itself as does the reality of mischaracterizations.

[B]What is even worse is that YOU cite Thanos "Running around the Jungle" and "Being outmuscled" as the MAIN focus of criticism in the Ka-Zar appearance. Yet, when I allege the same thing as the reason Starlin didn't like it you dismiss it. [/B]

Read any interview about Thanos and his character with Starlin in it and you will understand, try google it may enlighten you.

More nonsense, the writer knows of story knows more than you as does Tom B. Again cite all these showings that disprove my take on Black Bolt scream against Thanos.

You only have your opinion and il have what's shown and stated in the comic including Black Bolt clearing his city so he could unleash on Thanos.

Do you have any showing a BB scream having a effect like it did on Thanos lvl.

Stop lying son my main point from the start was about how it went against his character progression, why do you think when Starlin next wrote Thanos he was trying to redeem himself etc or be a hero to a extent

Originally posted by carver9
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In the Apocalypse scan it's telling us all of the hero's was putting "everything they have into their attacks" and Apocalypse tanked it with a smile. The scans where he hit the hero's, it's obvious it was his scream. It even states "and now they shall feel his true power".

Outlier for Apoc 😖hifty: