Originally posted by AncientPower
Talzin with an amp and prep was going evenly with Sidious... and then Dooku on top of that.Not to mention she was stalemating with Windu in a duel, for as much as we saw.
A prepped and amped Vitiate would give Sidious a tough fight in pure force skills. Also, I could be wrong but I don't think Sidious was amped in any way when he fought Talzin. Dooku was severely weakened during that battle.
nothing is stopping Vitiate from getting possessed
I doubt Talzin and Vitiate could mind rape each other.
Talzin =< Sidious, but they fought in a place called "the heart of Mother Talzin's power".
She was able to matching his lightning with her own for a while, but he started to winning after some time. Then Maul gave her his strenght, but moment after Count Dookuhas aided Sidious, and the fight was decided. She was forced onto defensive, and probably understood that she's doomed.
Anyway, her Force barier was awesome, her lightning was probably second only to Sidious.
Hard ot tell, if she was at her full condition. If she was ready for 100% to fight Sidious, then we should assume, that she wont be able to repeat that feats on neural ground. But if she was stil weakened, then the nexus of her powers has only compensated her lack of powers. And she should be treat, as about 100% of herself on neutral ground.
If she was weakened when she fought Sidious, and in this fight she's at her peak, then she may solos this.
However, if she was 100% ready to fight Sidious and she couldn't beat him while being supported by her nexus, then I would say, that she's about equal to Vitiate. In that scenario it might be decided by Maul's duel with Scourge. And since I believe that Scourge is well below Maul, then I would say that Dathomir' team takes this once again.
Originally posted by carthage
Windu has a history of not being able to actually beat anyone in a fight (Grievous, Maul, Talzin, struggling with Ventress, struggling with Bulq), only stalemating Palpatine with a MASSSIVE amp).He is one of the most overrated fighters in the mythos.
<3 You are my hero!
But it should be noted, that Mace has some hype, and he should be listed somwhere near to Count Dooku. Perhaps just a bit below him.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Your inability to refute my point is also noted. 😛The Book of Sith suggests that Talzin uses winds to levitate and move objects btw, not telekinesis.
You're joking right...
Also, If you're suggesting she has alter environment to the stage where she can create hurricane level winds, then I'm fine with that 😄
But yeh, even if she doesn't have TK of any level, she could still defend against it via her god bubble...
Originally posted by Selenial
You're joking right...Also, If you're suggesting she has alter environment to the stage where she can create hurricane level winds, then I'm fine with that 😄
But yeh, even if she doesn't have TK of any level, she could still defend against it via her god bubble...
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The fact that Sidious, who is solidly above Vitiate in TK, didn't overpower her with it, should imply that she can defend against it. However, implications only apply to TOR characters around here.
Originally posted by Selenial
You're joking right...Also, If you're suggesting she has alter environment to the stage where she can create hurricane level winds, then I'm fine with that 😄
But yeh, even if she doesn't have TK of any level, she could still defend against it via her god bubble...
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Why would you need hurricane level winds to float and move objects? Look, I read through her section of the Book of Sith where she describes Nightsister magic and the only reference to TK is when she mention s the Sorcerers of Tund's "psychic blasts". Other than that she mentions "winds that will carry you through the sky" and "air that keeps you aloft within a sphere of green energy." I'm not suggesting anything, that's just what it says.
Or Vitiate could choke the shit out of her through the bubble.
Originally posted by Nephthys
😕Why would you need hurricane level winds to float and move objects? Look, I read through her section of the Book of Sith where she describes Nightsister magic and the only reference to TK is when she mention s the Sorcerers of Tund's "psychic blasts". Other than that she mentions "winds that will carry you through the sky" and "air that keeps you aloft within a sphere of green energy." I'm not suggesting anything, that's just what it says.
Or Vitiate could choke the shit out of her through the bubble.
I never even mentioned the Book of Sith btw, just saying. But yeh, you need Hurricane level winds to propel someone through the sky.
And no, because he bubble is a glorified, intensely more powerful version of a Force Barrier, It'd block a Choke just as easily as Lightning...